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Obviously we need to do more......

PBM Jan 21, 2010 12:24 AM

At two shows this weekend, I was standing around the USARK booth, and at the other show, near a vendor passing out letters/petitions. It was downright shocking how many reptile KEEPERS knew NOTHING about what was going on. I couldn't believe someone would be enough in the "loop" to know about current reptile shows, yet not know anything about what's going on. Where else can we get the word out? I also mentioned the Tinley show to another keeper on Monday, and he had no idea they were having this show in February. Obviously we need to get some information out in more ways then we currently are. Ideas???

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cwolf Jan 21, 2010 01:05 AM

I agree, there is very few people who know much about this. If they are not involved with USARK or PIJAC, or involved with the species in question then there not going to know. It might help get the word out a bit if,, each forum on KS had a bulliten at the top of the page about it. I was astonished that I could go to almost any other reptile forum on KS and not see ANYTHING about this. Without this kind of exposure we are just informing people who already know whats going on and not opening up any other support, and I find that to be kind of a no brainer if you know what I mean.

Chris
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PHFaust Jan 21, 2010 02:07 AM

>>I agree, there is very few people who know much about this. If they are not involved with USARK or PIJAC, or involved with the species in question then there not going to know. It might help get the word out a bit if,, each forum on KS had a bulliten at the top of the page about it. I was astonished that I could go to almost any other reptile forum on KS and not see ANYTHING about this. Without this kind of exposure we are just informing people who already know whats going on and not opening up any other support, and I find that to be kind of a no brainer if you know what I mean.
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Actually Chris, Look up there at the top of the forum.
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SgtStinky Jan 21, 2010 05:06 AM

I agree, the one place to get the word out is to work in cooperation with all of the rodent and other food source producers. If we could get them flyers or a news letter to go out with every order/purchase we could be more effective! Reptiles have to eat, period.

Additionally, most business have an email list, this could be an excellent way to blast out information.

The hobbyist may loose his pet, even his investments, but those of you who work in the industry will loose your livelihood.

One thing that I have done is to email all of the business associated with the reptile industry that I use asking them for their support. I urge everyone to do the same thing, we need to get them interacting with our community!

PHFaust Jan 21, 2010 12:04 PM

>>I agree, there is very few people who know much about this. If they are not involved with USARK or PIJAC, or involved with the species in question then there not going to know. It might help get the word out a bit if,, each forum on KS had a bulliten at the top of the page about it.
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Chris this took me a bit, but after last evening getting it on the top forums, I spent today getting it on ALL the forums. If you look to the top of each page, you will see there is a sticky post on this.
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cwolf Jan 21, 2010 12:41 PM

Excellent! Thank you!

Chris Wolf
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PHFaust Jan 21, 2010 02:42 PM

>>Excellent! Thank you!
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LOL and I will have you know it took a little under 4 hours to get everything posted!

Can I have a nap now?
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LarM Jan 21, 2010 01:10 PM

Thx Cindy N/P

Cindy right ??????

. . . Lar M
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SgtStinky Jan 21, 2010 07:49 PM

Thanks Cindy!

Jonathan_Brady Jan 21, 2010 07:18 AM

Paul,
I've always thought that the online reptile community is infinitely smaller than most of us think. After working a show myself, I now think I was wrong. It's even smaller than I thought before. MOST people who keep a reptile do NOT look online at all for info on their reptile, or any reptile.

A few things that I would like to see done.

For all vendors who work with reptiles, or the supplies to keep them, I would like to see them edit their outgoing signature with a quick one sentence blurb and website to seek info about the situation.

I'd like to see all vendors who attend shows have at least a one page FAQ on the situation available for every customer who browses their offerings. In fact, I'd like to see a stack of FAQ's at the entrance to the show.

I'd like to see each vendors website have a blurb in a place that's easy to see with info, maybe a link, about the situation.

All pet stores should have fliers and FAQ's.

All vet offices should have fliers and FAQ's.

Those are just a few of the things I think would be helpful.

I think with the USFWS soon to be asking for public comments, I think there should be a dedicated page with info about how to comment, and what to say that all herpers can look to. If all of the sources for reptile interaction above had the SAME LINK (how many different petitions are there out there??), this could be a fantastic way to organize and fight back.

Just my thoughts...
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PBM Jan 21, 2010 02:46 PM

I think I need to print out a bunch of show flyers for the Tinley park show coming up in February and get those out in the area. We live about 2 hours from the show, so there should be a lot of people in this area that could attend...IF they know about it. This came up when I mentioned the show to another local keeper that goes every October, but had no idea of the upcoming February show. As I signed a petition regarding "usage fees" at the gas station yesterday, I wondered if we could put up petitions ourselves to be signed at venues other than pet stores? I think I should've been asking people HOW they found out about the shows they were attending, if not online.

LarM Jan 21, 2010 04:01 PM

Here are some excellent Flyers

I hosted these flyers

Main Flyer

Original Mini Flyer with Info Links

hosted at these below links

Click on the Links you can save and/or download these Flyers and print them up

Main Flyer
Main Flyer

Updated Mini Flyer updated Links
mini(2)

Mini Original Flyer with Info Links
mini Flyer

I passed these Flyers out while I got the letters signed at the
last N.IL. Dupage County Reptile show this past Sunday

. . . . Lar M
Pet Store Flyer -Orginal thread

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PBM Jan 22, 2010 02:57 PM

That's awesome, thank you!

MIchaelfm Jan 21, 2010 07:42 AM

The way we can do more is to get out a e-mail campainge to everyone and anyone. THe next thing to do is go to every local pet store and ask them to either post or hand out a flyer to every one coming to there store. I work in Petco stores and every week I can honesttly tell you I meet several people who have no knowledge of what is happening. I tell them the storeies ans give them the web sites to get the info they need. No everyone knows about kingsnake, PJAC, USARK, and all the others. The are not collectors breeders or hobbiests. They are the people that have the one family pet but just as important. These are all the great people that we need to reach. I would ask for help writing a letter that we can copy and paste to our e-mails and send to everyone. I only ask for help because it is a lot of info to summarize. god only knows my writting and typing skills are far from perfect. get me the letter and get everyone esle the letter and lets get it out there. MIke

LarM Jan 21, 2010 12:25 PM

Mike ( MIchaelfm ) their are several options for letters to print up or paste
into your E-mail with all this info you require.

At the below links

www.kill-s373.com

Rally Congress - USARK

I also have a letter I wrote that combined many of the resources
listed . I used that letter to get 300 copies signed for IL.

If you want my version E-mail me
LarryMicklevitz@aol.com

. . . Lar M
many resources here

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mike_panic Jan 21, 2010 08:07 AM

what would be very helpful is if every reptile association(club, group, whatever) across pooled their money and took out a single page ad in local papers to make people aware of this. I also think that the ads should be approved by USARK but that may slow the process down. IMO exposure is the key to this thing.
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LarM Jan 21, 2010 11:52 AM

I said the same thing quite a while back, we could reach many , many people in important places
with one full page Ad in the Washington Post

That's just one Avenue to pursue , everything Jb mentioned are intelligent viable options in addition to this.

. . . Lar M
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