Reptile & Amphibian Forums

a pic of the milk, she is from a dbl.het. breedings is a sibling to a snow and albino.

the SHORT story...
hatched in '06 whole clutch emerged within 24 hrs all perfect except one.

no biggie...

well after 3 days i started prodding and cutting the egg a lil and out the above snake shot like a bullet still with a fairly large yolk sak attached.

no biggie...

i put her on damp paper towels all is good no kinks jst alot of yolk and understandably a tad smaller than siblings. after 3 days most of the yolk was gone but still to delicate to put on bedding so stay on the paper towels next day she sheds gets a bit hung up the umbilicus but a small snip and all is good except she had an abnomally large belly button.

again no biggie...

keep on p.towels until its shut offer f/t pinks she eats all seems great until...
well the bastage lil carrion gnat flies seemed especially bad that year and when i check her a few days later to my HORROR i notice maggotts crawling in the tub on some waste ive seen this before i know here in houston they can get really bad really fast without diligent cleaning ASAP well when i pick her up i notice they are crawling in her belly button the whole cavity... i actually sqeezed them out like toothpaste (got a visual)
now there certainly comes a time when we all have to make THAT decision to cull or not...

well...

hmmm...

im certain i got them all out...

the animal seems fine at this point it had eaten twice and defecated fine...

SO...

i decided to go ahead and try.
after making sure i had removed ALL the maggots i cleansed the "cavity" with a chlorhexidine wash and packed it with neosporin, kept her on paper towels, she ate and defecated fine took about a full 2-3 months to completely close as time went on she grew and it finally did grow shut albeit a lil crooked she is still small 3-3-1/2 ft. sibs are 4-1/2 to 5ft. so she never did grow quite right and i will certainly NEVER breed her she is our pet.





hope ya enjoyed,,,,,,,,thomas davis
-----
Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

my website www.barmollysplace.com

Thomas, that is such a cool story, I'm so glad she survived. Thanks for sharing the pic, I really love the visual to see how big King will get.

hi thanks,im glad she made it as well. you are aware that hondos get MUCH bigger huh?
,,,,,,,,,thomas davis

-----
Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

my website www.barmollysplace.com

I heard the Hondurans get to be 4-5, sometimes 6 feet...now unless you're a really small person, that little girl of yours looks to be about 9 feet long!

im 5'10 the male in that pic is over 6ft. and the female is close to 6 ft. ive personally seen a 7ft., it was an old female.
feed them and they will grow.
great snakes.

,,,,,,,,,thomas davis
-----
Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

my website www.barmollysplace.com

Whew, I thought that photo was all one snake!
-----
----

0.1 Peruvian rainbow boa (Amaru)
0.3 Honduran milksnakes (Chicchan, Chanir, Hari)
2.6 corns (Cetto, Tolosa, TBA)
1,000,000.1,000,000 other critters

Very interesting, good work with that snake. I bet it would even breed fine in a year or two, nature has a way of making things work after an injury. Not that you'd want to breed her anyways though, just saying.
-----
- Matt

1.0 Black Milk '04
1.0 Andean Milk '06
0.1 Eastern King '97
0.1 Bullsnake '09

hi matt thanks, your right she probably could be bred in a year or so but i just wouldnt want to chance it. where the scales are fused together is real hard, scar tissue i guess??? she will just be a family pet.
btw oh yaaa i used to live in mounds view ehh? anoka to use to love hangin out at minnehaha park, still cold ehhh? i could only stand 2 winters there. they called me a weather wimp at times it was 70below, i did have a laugh and turned the weather wimp thing around come june/july they would be running AC complaining it was 88 degrees hahaha
only snakes i ever found there were garters. cool place just to damm cold do they still have rocky rococco pizza? man that was/is good with some schmidt ehh.

,,,,,,,,thomas davis
-----
Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

my website www.barmollysplace.com

I live in Richfield so not too far off from where you used to live. My wife is actually from Osseo. I think Rocky pizza is still around actually. I've been in TX since May for military duty so I am lucky to be missing the winter. I used to catch a lot of garters as a kid and I did see a bullsnake once that was quite large but it had been DOR in a parking lot at Fort Snelling park right along the minneapolis/st paul border. A real shame.
-----
- Matt

1.0 Black Milk '04
1.0 Andean Milk '06
0.1 Eastern King '97
0.1 Bullsnake '09

Very nice story and a lucky little booger you have there. Lucky in the sence that many others would have made her freezer bound if that happened.

I have had those little nasty ****** drive me crazy as well. The hatch time for the flys is somewhere around 3 hours if memory serves me.
-----
Please don't talk about snake prices when my wife is around!!

She is lucky to have you looking out for her!
-----
----

0.1 Peruvian rainbow boa (Amaru)
0.3 Honduran milksnakes (Chicchan, Chanir, Hari)
2.6 corns (Cetto, Tolosa, TBA)
1,000,000.1,000,000 other critters

never heard a story like that, but a great one indeed. Nothing like diligence in a positive direction!
-----
Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

Thanks for sharing and taking the time to save one.
snake adventures

First congrats, alot of time and effort went into that! But the big $64K question....if you had to do it all over again, knowing about the time/problems/lack of return on investment.....would you do it all over again?? I can understand it if its sentimental, but I usually dont work like that. I dont get along well with freeloaders.

yes id do it again, ive culled my share of deformities. this was differant. she's not a freeloader she earns her keep being an ambassodor for her sp. in educational programs and im fairly certain she would be able to reproduce i just wont allow her to.

,,,,,,,,,thomas
-----
Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

my website www.barmollysplace.com

There is a nice guy there! Good Job Thomas!
-----
Cindy Steinle
PHFaust
Visit kingsnake on Facebook!
Follow Kingsnake on Twitter!

yeah yeah... grumblegrumble... whatever... im just a guy who LOVES snakes and thought some here could/would apprecieate that story.
i love ALL snakes(pures,hybrids,morphs,ETC.) it is ashame some folks here dont see that. and all because i REFUSE to swallow the bitter pill of taxonomy, and jump inline with traditional thinking, im in someway an enemy. or that i can be intimidated into changing my views.
ironic to say the least.

,,,,,,,,,thomas
-----
Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

my website www.barmollysplace.com

DAMN!!!!!! You cant just cant say thank you to Cindy and shut up can you?!?!?!?!? Unbelievable.....
-----
Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

hahaha jerry, look who's talking! or is that stalking? hmmmm?
whatever...
-----
Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

my website www.barmollysplace.com

that was actually funny......no mudslingling on this one man.....
-----
Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

i play defense, you on the otherhand are obviously an offensive lineman.
no mudslingin here, my little tater-muffin-cupcake stalker.
-----
Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

my website www.barmollysplace.com

at least we provide entertainment.....well, mostly you.....but the ratings are throught the roof.
-----
Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."