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Inside story on proposed snake ban;U.S.

LarM Jan 25, 2010 01:20 PM

The inside story on the proposed snake ban; U.S. Fish and Wildlife Ignore Science

Has everyone read this article ?

Send this article to your Newspapers TV News stations

You might want to include these Links as well

vpi.com/sites/vpi.com/files/PP-and-Pythons_BarkerBarker.pdf

vpi.com/sites/vpi.com/files/ReedRodda_Review_BarkerBarker2010.pdf

vpi.com/sites/vpi.com/files/Reptile_Nation_pdf_007.pdf

vpi.com/sites/vpi.com/files/OnBurmese_Florida_compressed.pdf

usark.org/uploads/Tympanum.pdf

2 Links to R. Alexander Pyron, Frank T. Burbrink, Timothy J. Guiher study

usark.org/uploads/Pyron%20et%20al%202008%20-%20ecolog%20niche%20modeling%20contradicts%20python%20expansion%20claims.pdf

This link will come up as save file or download
www.plosone.org/article/fetchObjectAttachment.action;jsessionid=58DBF99D78E37082272270B36DB05177?uri=info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0002931&representation=PDF

Below is a link to a great article describing how USF&W are appearing to ignore the scientific process that's
been in place for so many years.

Now they seem to be ignoring the scientific process in the past
they have stood by and fought for

Click the Below Link

. . . Lar M

Click the Below Link to read
The inside story on the proposed snake ban; U.S. Fish and Wildlife Ignore Science-click here

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Replies (4)

tat2darin Jan 25, 2010 03:15 PM

that is an awesome link, thanks for posting it!!
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SgtStinky Jan 25, 2010 07:07 PM

Great job, I'll read every last one.

Upscale Jan 25, 2010 11:48 PM

The latest propaganda sensationalism is the notion that the Burmese will hybridize with the Rock python and create an even more fearsome threat.
Don’t they know there are South American crocodiles that have spread as north as temperatures will allow, which includes extreme south Florida. They really don’t belong here, but we call them “American” crocodiles since they do. They are a fifteen foot man eating top tier carnivore, but I haven’t heard anybody say they might hybridize with alligators and make a supersaurus crocogator. Seems like they could be a real threat to the diving industry in the Florida Keys and the beach loving tourists down here unless we make purses and shoes made of gator skin part of the Lacey Act. Seems those supersaurus crocogators would pose a real threat to all the native wildlife, maybe those South American crocs that manage to survive here should be killed just in case. Since the crocosaurus has had a few thousand year head start on the pythons, I would reconsider the python priority.

Calparsoni Jan 26, 2010 11:53 PM

There's been caimans here for years (strangely enough you never hear about them.) and they are much more closely related to alligators and they don't seem to hybridize either. I am going to go out on a limb a bit on this because I am not totally sure but I suspect all the "hybrid vigor" nonsense may be based plant crosses (which are going to involve a whole different set of variables than you find in animals) and wolfdogs which are technically not hybrids because wolves and dogs are the same species. Considering the line breeding that has gone on in dogs over the centuries their so called "hybrid vigor" when crossed with wolves is probably more of a refreshing of a limited gene pool.
Most other true hybrid crosses (mules those tiger/lion things) are usually sterile and when you really get down to it there isn't really that much hybridizing in nature beyond the subspecies level (which technically isn't a hybrid.). In fact the one example I can think of which occurs in (semi)nature is the coyote/dog crossing that happens when coyotes expand into new territory and it is my understanding that they die out after one generation.
I have never worked with african rocks before so I am not sure about how their breeding cycle is compared to burms but I have worked with a lot of plants from South Africa and I can tell that they are all pretty hard wired to bloom in our winter which of course is the Southern hemisphere's summer. I seem to remember Bert Langerwerf mentioning that in a lecture he once gave about some of the corydylid lizards he was working with. Of course they from southern africa as well.
It's just a few things to think about when they mention the whole "hybrid" thing.

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