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For brock or willwells........

skyliner May 25, 2003 04:50 PM

The young female that i posted pics of earlier i am told is c.bicinctores but when i checked against other pics of bicinctores there is virtually no resemblance,so what i would like to know is how was that judgement passed?I'm not picking,i wold just really like to know.
thanks
se yah
jason

Replies (4)

Brockn May 25, 2003 11:03 PM

the female in question does appear - at least in your pics - to bear quite a resemblance to a few of the female C. bicinctores Will has posted photos of on his website. The reason I suspect she might be a C. bicinctores is because of her comparatively elongated snout. By the way, how did you acquire her? The vast majority of collared lizards available currently in the pet trade are either C. collaris (far and away the most prevalent), or C. bicinctores.

Brock

DC May 26, 2003 12:37 AM

...I have a male which has a longer, less truncated *snout* similar or even more pronounced than the female pictured. Otherwise it is straight C. collaris. Check out the photo...

Additionally (not visible):

Fused supra-orbital scales
Round tail
Currently a pale sky blue, but was silver-gray when younger.

DC

Brockn May 26, 2003 01:39 PM

the presence of a laterally compressed tail in certain species of Crotaphytus (C. bicinctores, C. grismeri, C. vestigium, C. dickersonae, and C. insularis) is a feature unique to adult males only. The above species also have narrower, more elongate snouts (both sexes) in contrast with the relatively broad heads of C. collaris, etc. It is quite possible that these differences in head morphology are strongly correlated to the type of prey in which the lizards specialize in their particular habitats.

Brock

skyliner May 26, 2003 05:44 AM

I acquired her from a petshop here in the uk,i've had her since she was a hatchling and she is definately 1 of my favorites!Seems there a bit of a hot debate over her status but i'm not really all that bothered just curious tis all,anyway she is being bred to a c.collaris.
see yah and thanks to all who contributed
jason

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