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seasons first calkings

davidfabius Jan 31, 2010 09:39 PM

Hello all, I just wanted to share this seasons (Southern hemisphere summer) first calkings to hatch.Parents are siblings and last year I was surprised to see some melanistic babies hatch out of the blue. Thanks for looking,
David

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Jlassiter Jan 31, 2010 09:43 PM

>>Hello all, I just wanted to share this seasons (Southern hemisphere summer) first calkings to hatch.Parents are siblings and last year I was surprised to see some melanistic babies hatch out of the blue. Thanks for looking,
>>David
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David,
That is an awesomely variable clutch......
Can you share photos of the parents?
Congratualtions!
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

davidfabius Jan 31, 2010 09:46 PM

Thank you John, I will look up parents photos and will put them here in a short while

David

davidfabius Jan 31, 2010 09:56 PM

Heres photos of parents, sibling snakes

davidfabius Jan 31, 2010 09:58 PM

And here are photos of the original founders, the brown aberrant is the female, I still dont know which one was the melanistic carrier, the female came right from the US, the male came from Sweden!

Jlassiter Jan 31, 2010 10:08 PM

>>And here are photos of the original founders, the brown aberrant is the female, I still dont know which one was the melanistic carrier, the female came right from the US, the male came from Sweden!

Very nice to have those dark offspring hatch from those.....
Thanks for sharing the pics.....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

davidfabius Jan 31, 2010 10:20 PM

thanks for looking!
David

DMong Jan 31, 2010 11:12 PM

Awesome clutch there man!!

CONGRATULATIONS!!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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SDeFriez Feb 02, 2010 02:09 PM

Very cool dude, congrats! Just curious do you have local for them?

Scott

davidfabius Feb 02, 2010 05:47 PM

thanks,
no,I dont have locality info on them,

SDeFriez Feb 02, 2010 08:03 PM

>>thanks,
>>no,I dont have locality info on them,

Still very nice!!

Scott
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1 zonata 2 zonata 3 zonata 4, 5 zonata 6 zonata 7 zonata and more!

JKruse Jan 31, 2010 11:56 PM

wow, so early! Nice work, beautiful snakes (of course that goes without saying...).
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Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

davidfabius Feb 01, 2010 08:50 AM

Thank you guys!
Jerry, I am in the southern hemisphere, southern South America, so we are in midsummer now, only my mussuranas hatched earlier than this, and now these calkings and some Philodryas baroni are opening the main hatching season
David

antelope Feb 01, 2010 12:16 PM

That's a neat and varied clutch, so welcome to see at this end of the world!
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Todd Hughes

davidfabius Feb 01, 2010 03:40 PM

Thank you Todd!!

Kerby... Feb 01, 2010 07:35 PM

Not surprised at all considering the hypermelanistic gene (simple recessive) is all over the place. I've had both the Mendota & Davis hypermelanistics (same gene) and I've produced lots of hypermelanistics and LOTS of hets and double hets that look normal that are all over the place. I've even wholesaled hundreds of them (hets). And the pyramid just keeps getting BIGGER and BIGGER, so it's cool you produced one. That means that both the parents are het for hypermelanistic.

Kerby...

davidfabius Feb 02, 2010 09:37 AM

Thank you Kerby.
Are Davis and Mendota exactly the same thing?
Were they ever bred as locality?
And yes, as you say, parents must be hets, but my piece of luck was, I begun with an unrelated pair where obviously only one of them is het, as that pair never produced melanistics
Now 2 of their offspring, when bred, produced the melanistics so I am trying a couple other sibling females I kept with the male het to prove them out.

David

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