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.....from Mr. Ryan Hoyer.....
Killer Mex Mex from Black & Granite Phase parents.....

2009 Female from Black Phase Sire & Black Phase Dam

2009 Male from Black Phase Sire & Granite Dam

2009 Female from Black Phase Sire & Granite Dam


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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

Cool snakes, I'm always surprised how much they can look like corn snakes.
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- Matt

1.0 Black Milk '04
1.0 Andean Milk '06
0.1 Eastern King '97
0.1 Bullsnake '09

>>Cool snakes, I'm always surprised how much they can look like corn snakes.

.....LOL.....NO!....Miami corns look like Mex Mex.......Hehehehe

Thanks man.....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

awesome John......I hope they turn out the way we both anticipate.....
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Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

>>awesome John......I hope they turn out the way we both anticipate.....

Me too.....
I am thinking of improving on that Nuchal striping going on....
Back in the 90s I saw a Mex Mex that had a nuchal stripe 1/3 of its length....But back then I didn't know if it was a hybrid or not.......

Here's some I have with some nice striping going on.....

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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

I forgot to add....
The top two pictured are from Black and Granite lines....
And the bottom two pictured are form the Hypo-E line.....
So....ALL THREE phases along with striping is represented there......

I just hope I get to see all these Mex Mex I have pictured in my head......LOL
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

LOL....I couldnt stop ya if I tried....... Nothin' like a happy man.....and to think of all the OTHER things we could be doing out there...(that one gets my wife ALL the time....)
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Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

>>LOL....I couldnt stop ya if I tried....... Nothin' like a happy man.....and to think of all the OTHER things we could be doing out there...(that one gets my wife ALL the time....)

Tell me about it.....LOL

You know I was once Jaded with this hobby.....Producing the same thing over and over...sometimes being successful and some years failing miserably.

I am just excited again about the hobby......More than ever really......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

glad to see it's happening to you too.......after my long 3 year break away to pursue/complete the ol' master's degree ('02 - '05) and having NO snakes, it's good to be back and concentrated on my love . . . . .

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Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

Great pictures John. Of the 5 mex mex that I have, only 1 is awake and actively feeding volutarily. A male and 2 females are in bruamtion because they got tired of fighting winter, I guess. My remaining female is being fed mouse tails, she just will not voluntarily eat. I am determined not to give up on her.
Thanks again for sharing the shots.
Jeff Robbe
4 Lakes Snakes

Smoking hot John! I hope they stay true to their coloration to adults.

Scott
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How many nuns could a nunchuck chuck if a nunchuck could chuck a nun?

>>Smoking hot John! I hope they stay true to their coloration to adults.

If you are saying you hope they look just like they do as adults....I say.....I DEFINITELY hope not....LOL
I hope the ground color turns coal black and the saddles brighten up to red/orange.....Like this......

Pics courtesy of Ryan Hoyer....


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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

>>>>Smoking hot John! I hope they stay true to their coloration to adults.
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>>If you are saying you hope they look just like they do as adults....I say.....I DEFINITELY hope not....LOL
>>I hope the ground color turns coal black and the saddles brighten up to red/orange.....Like this......

>>Yes now that's the mex mex I'd love to see and own!

>>Pics courtesy of Ryan Hoyer....
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>>John Lassiter
>>Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
>>www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com
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How many nuns could a nunchuck chuck if a nunchuck could chuck a nun?

This trio I have are from those adults I posted....
Pigment mutations in Mex Mex are ontogenetic....
The black phase and the Hypo-Es hatch out "normal" looking then the black phase's ground color darkens with each shed and the hypo-e's saddles lighten with each shed......

I sure would like to see a single snake to both at the same time........Maybe after this summer we'll have some that do......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

Those black phase and hypo-Es are just stunning. I hope you do get a single snake or more at the same time and with a nuchal strip. They would be hotter than hell looking mex mex.

Scott
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How many nuns could a nunchuck chuck if a nunchuck could chuck a nun?

>>Great pictures John. Of the 5 mex mex that I have, only 1 is awake and actively feeding volutarily. A male and 2 females are in bruamtion because they got tired of fighting winter, I guess. My remaining female is being fed mouse tails, she just will not voluntarily eat. I am determined not to give up on her.
>>Thanks again for sharing the shots.

Thanks Jeff.....I would love to see the 5 you have.....
And I have one 2009 male that is stubborn too.....He ate well for a few meals then turned down the last few weeks......I've turned up the temps.....Placed two wet moss hides on the warm side and cool side......Deepened the Aspen......Tried brained/live pinks....Anole scented pinks.....Washed pinks....tease feeding with no avail....he hasn't lost that much weight...I am thinking of cooling him for a couple weeks and bringing him up with the breeders.....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

Thanks John,
Good to know I'm not the only one with occasional fussy snakes. Yes, I have to get more computer literate so I can post some pictures online.

Awesome snags John!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

>>Awesome snags John!
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

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TomsSnakes.com
twitter.com/TomsSnakes

WOW....Where you been man?
Nice to see you're still kickin......Ha
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

Tom! What's shakin'? You need to bring us up to speed with an awesome breeding report soon! The MBK's I got from you several years back will go the first time this year, along with my whitewall and het, I can't wait! I want to thank you for the opportunity to work with both of your lines of these awesome animals! Thanks man!

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Todd Hughes

Hey Todd, I cannot wait to see some babies. I hope you get a boatload of them. I enjoy my winters of peace and forum free quiet haha, but soon I will have some new pics for the forum. A lot of my stuff looks the same, I cooled all my 09s for a month.. but now they're up and HUNGRY.
Tom Stevens
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TomsSnakes.com
twitter.com/TomsSnakes

Great to hear Tom! Yep, I kept my '09's up until a month ago too, now they are literally banging on the cages to be fed! Can't wait to see what you've been hiding!
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Todd Hughes

I've been working on music and other things, laying low avoiding the drama of the herp world. I was in Vegas in October, heading to Baltimore in May and may actually travel a good bit this year. Any which way I will be breeding snakes, looking forward to it.
Tom Stevens
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TomsSnakes.com
twitter.com/TomsSnakes

Are we going to see a NokturnelEclipse reunion tour?.......
Good luck with all your snake plans Tom......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

Actually the band is Nokturnel, my business is Nokturnel Eclipse and when I play it will be with a new lineup. No reunion. This weather stinks eh? No outside snake shots for me...
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TomsSnakes.com
twitter.com/TomsSnakes

>>Actually the band is Nokturnel, my business is Nokturnel Eclipse and when I play it will be with a new lineup. No reunion. This weather stinks eh? No outside snake shots for me...

Oh yeah....forgot....LOL
Glad you are working on some new stuff.....
I play guitar as well, but nothing like your genre....
I play more of the grunge genre.....

Actually the sun is shining here FINALLY......
It has been a great cold winter though for brumating.....
It's gonna be fun again watching snakes hatch.....
I hope we get some good eggs.....
I'll go sacrifice some more pinky mice to the snake gods in a bit........
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com