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All FL Burmese w Transmitters are Dead

BruceAlbinos Feb 07, 2010 10:54 AM

All Florida Burmese Pythons that were tagged for the invasive python study have been found dead. The USFWS has been holding off on releasing this information to the public. That is the information I have from close inside sources. I am not stating this as absolute fact, but my sources are usually very reliable.

It is my belief that the government scientists and officials may be withholding this information deliberately, until USFWS can get the 9 species of snakes declared injurious under the Lacey Act and therefore banned without the representation and input of the citizens of the USA. If this information came out now, the boas and pythons could not be declared injurious under the Lacey Act.

I hereby call upon US Federal Government Scientists Gordon Rodda, Frank Mazzotti, and Skip Snow to release this information regarding the number of deaths of all tagged snakes immediately.

I also hereby call on the Secretary of the Department of the Interior Ken Salazar and USFWS Director Sam Hamilton to release this information regarding the number of deaths of all tagged snakes immediately and halt any Lacey Act actions based upon any false or misleading evidence.

Replies (12)

antelope Feb 07, 2010 12:44 PM

I would also like the information about the pythons released before the votes go down, this is still America and those of us that are able to speak up are doing so now.
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Todd Hughes

biophile Feb 07, 2010 04:13 PM

I would also like to see all the data associated with those pythons. I guess there is always FOIA and litigation if there is no transparency.

webwheeler Feb 07, 2010 06:21 PM

If this is true, it wouldn't mean that a bunch of crazy herpers are right and that government scientists, who published the "USGS Python Expansion Map", are wrong would it?

natsamjosh Feb 07, 2010 07:46 PM

>>All Florida Burmese Pythons that were tagged for the invasive python study have been found dead. The USFWS has been holding off on releasing this information to the public. That is the information I have from close inside sources. I am not stating this as absolute fact, but my sources are usually very reliable.
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>> It is my belief that the government scientists and officials may be withholding this information deliberately, until USFWS can get the 9 species of snakes declared injurious under the Lacey Act and therefore banned without the representation and input of the citizens of the USA. If this information came out now, the boas and pythons could not be declared injurious under the Lacey Act.
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>> I hereby call upon US Federal Government Scientists Gordon Rodda, Frank Mazzotti, and Skip Snow to release this information regarding the number of deaths of all tagged snakes immediately.
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>> I also hereby call on the Secretary of the Department of the Interior Ken Salazar and USFWS Director Sam Hamilton to release this information regarding the number of deaths of all tagged snakes immediately and halt any Lacey Act actions based upon any false or misleading evidence.

Also everyone should keep in mind that the DOI is planning on starting the Lacey Act process well BEFORE the results of the study in South Carolina are going to be released. I believe the DOI (via USFWS) is funding this study. If this were on the up and up, why on earth wouldn't the DOI wait for the results of a study THAT IT FUNDED to even consider adding the snakes to the Lacey Act?

I contacted the Dept. of Justice regarding this, and I'm trying to figure out how to file an ethics complaint.

Jaykis Feb 07, 2010 08:58 PM

Anyone really surprised at the results?

jscrick Feb 08, 2010 08:09 AM

1.) "All Florida Burmese Pythons that were tagged for the invasive python study have been found dead. The USFWS has been holding off on releasing this information to the public. That is the information I have from close inside sources. I am not stating this as absolute fact, but my sources are usually very reliable."

2.) "It is my belief that the government scientists and officials may be withholding this information deliberately, until USFWS can get the 9 species of snakes declared injurious under the Lacey Act and therefore banned without the representation and input of the citizens of the USA. If this information came out now, the boas and pythons could not be declared injurious under the Lacey Act."

3) "Also everyone should keep in mind that the DOI is planning on starting the Lacey Act process well BEFORE the results of the study in South Carolina are going to be released. I believe the DOI (via USFWS) is funding this study. If this were on the up and up, why on earth wouldn't the DOI wait for the results of a study THAT IT FUNDED to even consider adding the snakes to the Lacey Act?"

We should INSIST the media investigate and report.

jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

brhaco Feb 08, 2010 08:47 AM

Our necks are set squarely on the chopping block, and anything that gives us a little wiggle room will not be publicized by either the media or the politicos. If they can, they will bury this deeper than jimmy Hoffa!
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Brad Chambers
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Aaron Feb 08, 2010 12:28 PM

But we can keep hammering them even after the fact just to get the truth out. Otherwise they will do it again.

jscrick Feb 10, 2010 09:44 PM

To clarify, in regard to another post, as to whether the media is friendly or not -- I'm not saying in this post to partner, to buddy-up, to interview, or create sound bites -- nothing of the sort. I'm saying hold their feet to the fire -- challenge them to be accountable, balanced, fair and unbiased. Not saying they will, either.
jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

Jaykis Feb 12, 2010 04:34 PM

According to a thread on the Burmese board, they did NOT all die, but most did. They will have the report ready soon.

jscrick Feb 12, 2010 07:02 PM

Hope they include the current health and future prognosis for those still living.
jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

Jaykis Feb 14, 2010 10:15 AM

John, those were my exact thoughts. Sick snakes are hard to find if they eventually die and are eaten by a myriad of animals.

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