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Is it possible to mate a pueblan apricot milk with a hypo tangerine hondo? If so does anyone have pictures of what this cross may look like and be worth?

Spintix, this is really not the forum for such a question. You will more likely find an answer to your question without any flaming on the hybrid forum. Not trying to be donkey, just upfront and honest with you!!

This is a milk snake forums is it not? I have questions. Either answer them or don't answer at all.

Dude seriously you don't want to be asking those questions in here LOL

then where is a forum that i should?

Yes you could cross them and most here would consider them worthless.

Answer your question?
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-Daniel Hill

If we cross these two milks they will be worthless freaks, but just think of the two asses they will all have!

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How many nuns could a nunchuck chuck if a nunchuck could chuck a nun?

Hehe... right... everyone knows artificially created intergrades are worthless unless they have at least FOUR asses. I'm pretty sure that doesn't happen until the F2 or F3 generation, though... will have to check the liner notes of my Loverboy albums... seems like an appropriate day to bust those out, anyway!

Not all axially bifrucated milksnakes are worthless freaks, though... below is a picture of a wild-caught Augusta, Maine locality L. t. triangulum. Those are my hands, but unfortunately not the hands that captured it, otherwise it would be in my collection rather than Van Wallach's.

Nate

LOL! I have nothing against wild crosses, just the man made ones that have 4 asses. Be carful of those Loverboy albums, they could turn you to the dark side...LOL!

Scott

>>Hehe... right... everyone knows artificially created intergrades are worthless unless they have at least FOUR asses. I'm pretty sure that doesn't happen until the F2 or F3 generation, though... will have to check the liner notes of my Loverboy albums... seems like an appropriate day to bust those out, anyway!
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>>Not all axially bifrucated milksnakes are worthless freaks, though... below is a picture of a wild-caught Augusta, Maine locality L. t. triangulum. Those are my hands, but unfortunately not the hands that captured it, otherwise it would be in my collection rather than Van Wallach's.
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>>Nate
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How many nuns could a nunchuck chuck if a nunchuck could chuck a nun?

Just kidding, we've got a new guy on the forum with that handle (any relation to joecop?) and every time I see it, that Radiohead song pops into my brain.

Look, try to talk crosses/hybrids/intergrades in here, and you'll get nothing but grief. Trust me.

You'd be wise to take the advice that you got in that first response from Kevin, which, judging from your follow-ups, you may not have noticed. Take it to the hybrid forum. The link is attached.

Thanks,
Nate
Hybrid Discussion

Well put and helpful.

LamproPolice ain't new, though. He's "been around the block" a time or two!

-Cole

L. t. multistrata - Bighorn Co., MT

Thanks, Cole... hadn't noticed his posts on the forum before yesterday, but obviously he's acquainted with and has his priorities in order with regard to locality vs. morphs.

Nice multistrata... I've got to get out in the field this year and see if I can scare up some L. t. triangulum... there are a few good spots out near my dad's house. They get pretty big up here at the northeastern end of their range, big enough to give those Monster Island milks a run for their money.

Nate

Get out in the field! For me, at least, few things can beat the nearly metaphysical feeling of being in, and a part of, Nature. Finding milks is an added bonus! Be sure to post photos of any excursions!

That Lampropolice guy mostly lurks around here. He'll make a post once a year or so, and is a pretty solid guy. I wish he'd post more, since we could all learn from him, but I suspect he's too busy preparing delectable, frozen, Tex-Mex treats for us all to enjoy... Taste the Fiesta!

-Cole

Beartooth Mountains, Montana

Kevin was trying to be nice and tell you this wasnt the place to ask and that the hybrid forum is the proper place to ask whether or not you could throw two snakes together to make junk.

Sometimes I wonder if there is like three or four guys that come on here under different names and ask these questions. They make the snowball and roll it down the mountain to see how big it will get.

makes ya wonder doesnt it. maybe they need to bring up separate hybrid forums under the snake category that way it is easier to find or something. It took me a little searching when i was checking to see if there was one and i finally found it

Hey guys I've got to give you all credit in this thread for not jumping down Spintix's throat for asking his question about hybrids. I know some of us (I've been guilty of this) have stepped right in on these hybrid questions before and shout the question down.
I really believe it's better for our milk forum to treat people w/ a little more respect, and I applaud you all for it.

Now about this new dudeman "LamproPolice" don't talk to him he'll sell you a bad taco.

-Dell

There are known intergrade zones for certain kings and milks, however Pueblans and Hondurans come NOWHERE near each other in the natural world........why compromise the integrity of what has taken so much time to create in their respective parts of the world? Leave them as they are, please. For both the integrity of the snakes as well as the integrity of the hobby. Those crossed babies leave your hands and Lord knows how they will further compromise the integrity of furture animals for those who want, for example, a genuine Pueblan milk. Think about it before you do so...thanks...
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Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

But just knowing how many people are always intent on doing just that, leaves me with a very queezy feeling in my gut.

~Doug

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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

Yes it most certainly is possible to do that.

I have a question for you though, why are you sking about doing it? Is it something to do because those are the only animals that you have?

I urge against it because there are plenty of other mixed up snakes out there and the ones you are referring to cannot be imported any longer. That means the gene pool we have here is all that we have and the more crosses thrown in the mix the less "pure" animals that there will be. You can only make crosses you simply cannnot unmake them. Once it's done there is no going back.
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If con is the opposite of pro, does that mean congress is the opposite of progress??

"You can only make crosses you simply cannnot unmake them. Once it's done there is no going back"

Excellent point bro!!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

It can be done, the offspring would look something intermediate to the two (but het for hypo) and would be worth apprximately a plug nickel to most people who are even moderately into milksnakes.
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“Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind.” Emmerson