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Was going through some old pics today and came across this pic by Andrea Spada, taken at the home of former hognose guru, Richard Evans.
Unfortunately there were only a few pics taken of this double homozygous morph, Pink pastel Hypo. This snake was hatched in 2004 from DH x DH pairing. A similar, yet more striking male sibling was also produced that looked more like an anaconda than this guy and was also double homozygous in 2003. That male was completely patternless for the first half of its body, and as I recall had a solid colored ventral. The 2004 as an adult:

and as a neonate:

Neonate picture courtesy Michael Price Photography

As I look at the pics, I can see traits of the anaconda coming through, obviously from the pink pastel side of the bloodline.
Notice how the posterior parts of the head pattern try to fuse
laterally(neonate pic), similar to many of the anacondas or supercondas seen today. The vanishing tail pattern is also similar to the traits shown in anaconda bloodlines. You can see the progression of fading as the snake had aged also, very similar to what many of our anacondas do. My anaconda had some speckling to his pattern as a neonate but in a few sheds it was gone.

Some anaconda pics to show similarity.
F2 to "Spot" the original anaconda from Brent Bumgardner

Other anacondas from Brent Bumgardner resembling the double morph in top pic:

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Thank you,
Kevin Rhodes
http://www.freewebs.com/spreptile/hognose.htm
http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc314/lifesciences/?action=view¤t=09-09hognose001.jpg

Great thread Kevin, thanks for the history lesson!

What ever did happen to that double homo PPA/Hypo? And what about all the other specimens that Evans had? Did they end up in other private collections or are they no longer around?
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Troy Rexroth
Rextiles

Thanks Troy.
Both; Some of the stock ended up in the hands of other breeders and are still around today and unfortunately others were lost. The double homozygous was with the latter group.
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Thank you,
Kevin Rhodes
http://www.freewebs.com/spreptile/hognose.htm
http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc314/lifesciences/?action=view¤t=09-09hognose001.jpg

That is bearing a striking esemblance. I heard somewhere that the anaconda trait was from a wild caught female.

DO you think the person that said was misinformed?

Very informative and truthful post, Thanks! This forum could use that every now and again.
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If con is the opposite of pro, does that mean congress is the opposite of progress??

Good post,there is a large similarity there,and we all know the original father of the anaconda was a het pink male from Richard Evans,and the mother was NOT from Texas and thats for sure.

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Brent Bumgardner
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703.431.1776
Superconda Website

Guessing that the genetic outcome of your first brood left the anaconda male without the pink gene.
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Thank you,
Kevin Rhodes
http://www.freewebs.com/spreptile/hognose.htm
http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc314/lifesciences/?action=view¤t=09-09hognose001.jpg

here are a few pics of what i call my special het pink. i tried breeding him this last year but my leg break made for a ruff breeding season. i got this guy from renagade reptiles stock and was told he is an 04'. i think he looks very conda"ish".

sorry for the crappy pics.

I can see the similarities in him. A keeper for sure. Wouldn't it be nice to hatch some anacondas from him. You may even get a jumpstart if the odds fall correct when the pink gene is combined. I think that we are just scratching the surface with this observation. If more breeders with the pink or het pink line would post anacondaish stuff, it would probably amaze us all.
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Thank you,
Kevin Rhodes
http://www.freewebs.com/spreptile/hognose.htm
http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc314/lifesciences/?action=view¤t=09-09hognose001.jpg

very interesting and useful post...like everytime Kevin...Thanks!
do you know if Mr Evans had similar looking ones at his place, that were not these double homos?
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Greetings from Berlin
Stefan & Raimo

Reptiles-Breeding-Enterprise.com

I will have to look back at the pics he shared with me. Most of the pics are of 2006 stock. He only took pictures when he was ready to sell animals or for special events like reptiles magazine articles or the launching of his website. I don't particularly remember any but those double homozygous, looking like anacondas, but will look back through. I'll post what I find.
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Thank you,
Kevin Rhodes
http://www.freewebs.com/spreptile/hognose.htm
http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc314/lifesciences/?action=view¤t=09-09hognose001.jpg

Kevin good post I remember the anomolus morphs he produced that never made it past there first month and were and now never reproduced.As I have said before Richard was a visionary with a dream.It is so sad he is out of the morph game as he put so much of his life in to the hognose game.I remember a morph he called jungle that I have scene none like ever again.His blood lines went way beyond Texas.Tho west Texas and eastern newmexico animals were his main group.Some females collected by me.Those were the days and I have not talked with Richard in years.He offered me the deal of a lifetime and as a venomous person I turned it down.One of lifes true regrets.Now years later I dream of these animals it is the time of the hognose.I am so glad to see you working with these great animals you sure came a long way from the 16 year old kid bringing me ringnecks for my coral snakes.Any way this subject amazes me and I read every post you make.When you bring Richard in to it I think that is a sign of true respect for a man that diserves his dues.Good topic thanks..
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Archie Bottoms

There is some nice history in this post, pretty great to read!
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Chris & Alliey
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I guess going into his pet shop and seeing lots of cool stuff for 15 years will do that to anyone. Few on the forum know about all the stuff he hatched or had- Western hog wise. Did you ever see the melanistic he had? That one was killer. Black face, black eyes, Dark purple/brownish body with lighter lateral pinkish red stripes running down the sides at the ventral. Sad it did not make it. Maybe it will pop up again as it's dame and all of its sibs were sold.
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Thank you,
Kevin Rhodes
http://www.freewebs.com/spreptile/hognose.htm
http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc314/lifesciences/?action=view¤t=09-09hognose001.jpg

iNEVER SAW HIS BUT i HATCHED A PR OUT OF ONE EGG THAT WERE TWINS BUT ONE WAS DARK BLACK AND THE OTHER WAS HYPO LIKE VERY CRAZY LOOKING AND QUITE UNHERD OF .i SOLD THEM FOR 30 BUCKS LIKE AN IDIOT NEVER HAVE i SCENE ANY LIKE THEM EVER.DID YOU EVER SEE JOE BILLS BLONDIE IT REMINDS ME OF TOFFIE BELLIES BUT NOT THE SAME.IT TO DIED BEFORE BREEDING.There had to be some sort of color splitting in the egg I can not even show it as I never took a picture.Mabie some day it will happen again for someone and they will of one the lottery that day.
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Archie Bottoms

That hypo thing JB had was insane. I don't think it had any color but beige. I never saw the ventral. It was a cool snake.
Did not even know about your twin hognoses. Amazing to think any of this stuff survives in the wild with as many birds of prey that frequent the area.
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Thank you,
Kevin Rhodes
http://www.freewebs.com/spreptile/hognose.htm
http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc314/lifesciences/?action=view¤t=09-09hognose001.jpg

Richard Evans the true King of hognose!

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Brent Bumgardner
bwbumgardner@aol.com
703.431.1776
Superconda Website