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I'm trying to keep some escape artist/ Rubber Boas these days and thought I'd try to keep them in some Vision #211s' I have in storage. I have seen folks use single panes to replace the two sliders. (I think small ones and unexpected offspring can get through the gap between sliders)

Any tips on how you would mount handles or something to lift out the glass?

Anybody have any experience with doing this for small snakes or even if it will work to keep them from escaping?

It would be easier than clips on a ten gallon aquarium I think for regular maintenance?

Thanks,

Bob.

No experience here but I've heard of alterna keepers doing this.

A friend of mine attached oak handles to the glass doors on his cage. He just had holes drilled by the glass company and then attached them with screws and rubber washers. He may have put rubber washers on both sides.

Rubber Boas are a new species for me as well. Well I kept one years ago but I don't count that.

Do yours have locality data? Mine are Blaine County, Idaho and Santa Cruz, CA.
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3.5.5 Gonyosoma oxycephalum (Javan, mixed colors)
0.0.3 Rhynchophis boulengeri
0.4 Lampropeltis triangulum multistriata
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2.1.2 Morelia viridis
1.0 Morelia clastolepis
1.1 Coelognathus flavolineatus
1.1 Pituophis catenifer pumilus
1.2 Charina bottae
1.1 Lichanura trivirgata

Thanks Chris.

The ones I have are Generic. No background info at all.

I was just busting before. Looks like a rewarding amount of animals to keep.

Bob.

>>Thanks Chris.
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>>The ones I have are Generic. No background info at all.
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>>I was just busting before. Looks like a rewarding amount of animals to keep.
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>>Bob.

why use glass, when plexiglass/acrylic is so much easier to work with?

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I guess that would be easier to drill or have holes cut through but I guess I like glass because of it not scratching easily.

Go to a NAPA or Autozone and look for a Dent Remover. They are basically a large suction cup that is placed over the dent, the handle is compressed and you pull. I use this for removing the glass on one of my enclosures. It grips very well.

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Bob,

I do have some weather stripping between the glass panels on one of my cages. I used roller track and the gap is much bigger and an adult Gonyosoma can squeeze at least the back half of its body out of the gap. Found that out the hard way.

Filled it with foam weather stripping and no further issues.

It's okay but I've read that alterna keepers using Vision cages don't think it's sufficient. I don't believe that adult Rubber Boas could escape from it but their babies perhaps could.

Single panel of glass might be the safer choice.

Yup, Thats what I'm thinking too Chris. A little embarrased to bring one of the Vision #211 cages to a glass shop but thought I should so they could measure for themselves for a precise fit because of them being such great escape artists. I've heard of many folks losing them out of tubs etc. So I'm trying to do it right without screwing it up. Sharp little guys huh? Think I'm going to like working with them

You could just cut your own template and take that in if you'd rather not take the cage?

Nice looking Charina. I'm glad to have them again as well. Small Colubrids and Erycines that can be brumated seem to be a good fit with my lifestyle right now.

Now, if I can just get my wife to let me move some Chondros into the house...

Good idea Chris, thanks.

Chondros too huh? I have friends that like them so much that's pretty much all they do. Never got the bug but as an outsider I can appreciate their coolness though!

Yup. I know it's a dramatic change for me. I guess with two boys in diapers I'm finding it more and more of a drag to work my way to my snake room to take care of the higher strung colubrids that have appealed to me for so long.

I really enjoy Chondros for their low maintenance and generally laid back nature. Just a few years ago I would have found them too boring to hold my interest but now that "boring" nature is exactly what appeals to me. Honestly if I "had" to cut down to one species right now Chondros would be the best fit for me.

But as you can tell one species is not exactly the direction the collection is taking at the moment, LOL.

>>I'm trying to keep some escape artist/ Rubber Boas these days and thought I'd try to keep them in some Vision #211s' I have in storage. I have seen folks use single panes to replace the two sliders. (I think small ones and unexpected offspring can get through the gap between sliders)
>> Bob.

Bob , can you take a strip of plastic or plexi-Glass and hot glue, or silicone it to one of the doors to fill up the gap, but leave enough room for the doors to still slide open.
Bob Bichler

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>>Bob , can you take a strip of plastic or plexi-Glass and hot glue, or silicone it to one of the doors to fill up the gap, but leave enough room for the doors to still slide open.
>>Bob Bichler

Single sided foam tape works well too.

I like the idea of a single pane, easier to work with and provides a much cleaner look.

I'm a big fan of glass particularly safety glass in your situation safety glass is overkill...till you drop a pane.
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Got to ponder that a bit...Thanks.

A few years ago, I believe it was chrish, showed a pic of a single glass door on his smaller Vision, probably the 211 if I remember correctly. In any case, he had glass cut to size. The handles were either stick-on or drilled, I can't remember, sorry. Anyway, it worked. Nice idea really. He had sandboas in the cage I think. Sandboas, like rubber boas, can squeeze through amazingly thin gaps. The single pane door stopped that problem. So could weather stripping, but I am with you on the single-pane option.

Congrats on the rubber boas, great animals! Calmest snake there is. Just keep the background temp cool as you can. In some parts of their range, they can be found on roads when temps are in the lower 50s and humidity is high (and they are absent once temps increase). They dry out easily too, so keep that in mind.

Where I live, too darn hot in Summer. I had two RBs and I gave them away because ambient temps got too high - they seemed very uncomfortable. I placed ice packs in their cage (kept them together) and they would coil up in the soil right under the ice packs. A friend took them, and they are doing well.
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