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I know these are not pituophis but there size reminds me of some.

Jason

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Man, that's a beautiful whopper there! But what the heck is it? Hypo Bairds, Bairds/Glades...wtf?

My 2 1/2 yr. Baird's is just about 6 feet TL now and very heavy like that.

that DNA testing has shown them to be more closely related to pits then rat snakes. DNA is sure challenging our old ways of thinking on a lot of stuff.

Dan

Whoever made that claim obviously botched-up or misinterpreted the results. It seems obvious that phylogeny through DNA has a long ways to go. IMHO

Well...I can't say that I disagree with you...but...who am I to argue with the scientist. :>

Dan

Well, I have read that Bairds integrate with Texsas rats in nature, but never that they integrade with pituophis in nature. That would lead me to believe a closer relationship to Elaphe than Pituophis.

Man, those are huge bairdi!! I did not suspect bairds to get much more than 4-5 ft. MAX!!

Ha, in this particular case, the men in white coats oughta be in straight jackets instead ))

It does look very Pit-ish. Nice looking snake.

reako45