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Hognose temps, what I am trying.....

giantkeeper Mar 09, 2010 09:48 AM

I am looking to hear how those of you working with large numbers of hognose, and have several successful years of experience keeping and breeding manage your hognose temps.

We've been tossing around the idea of not keeping them on heat. Living in Arizona the weather does not play friendly with most in-home reptile collections.

We keep our hogs in the same room as the pythons and it stays around 75 ambient in the winter and 82-85 in the summer, do not feed large meals, and only feed 1x a week. We are also ok with it taking an additional year to raise up females :O)

Let's hear your thoughts, opinions, and experiences please!

Thanks,
Chris
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Replies (9)

Gregg_M_Madden Mar 09, 2010 05:14 PM

Hey Chris,
I do not have a huge hog collection... However, I do keep a large collection of a variety of species...From my experience with keeping hogs now and back in the 90's, my opinion is that a 75 degree ambient may be ok but it is simply not the best temps to keep them at... I have been keeping mine at an 80 degree ambient with a hot spot that varies between 92 and 95 degrees... And yes, they do use the high basking temps...

From my experience the high basking temps promote steady growth and increased feeding... The hognose can heat up and thermoregulate in minutes... This leaves them time to be more active instead of trying to heat up to optimal temperatures...

Whenever I temp gun my hognose snakes they are almost always between 83 and 86 degrees no matter what time of the day I check them... This tells me that like most reptiles, their optimal body temp is in the low to mid 80's... So if you are only offering them a temp between 75 and 80 degrees, they will be less active, eat less, and not grow at a steady rate...

Also, whenever I do feild herping, I always have a temp gun handy... Even other colubrids like pines, corns, milks, garters, and racers have all been documented basking in spots that were in the mid to high 90's...

I am able to maintain my temps using a thermostat on a rack system... In the summer, the room my reptiles are kept in is air conditioned so I have no issues with overheating at all..

giantkeeper Mar 09, 2010 06:46 PM

Thanks for the feedback Gregg. I have the ability to keep them the same way I would any other herp, this was just something I was tossing around.

Anyone else have something to add?
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giantkeeper Mar 10, 2010 08:02 AM

This place is a ghost town.....
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Jon R Mar 10, 2010 11:35 AM

I agree with Gregg. The higher temps most of us are keeping our hogs at have been tried, tested and proven. I know a couple guys that keep their hogs in rooms without good ambient temperature control. There is a noticeable difference in growth rate and feeding response between their animals and mine. I have a dedicated heating system with a programmable thermostat and keep mine at 86 in the day with a night time drop down to 80. I also have heat tape set to 92. I have a wall switch timer on my rooms lights as well. I set this up to give them 16 hours of light per day.

-Jon

giantkeeper Mar 10, 2010 01:51 PM

Thanks Jon, I too have heard of people using the ambient and wonder how it would work for me. Sounds like a good ole' fashion set up is the way to proceed.

Thanks for letting me bounce stuff off you guys. I had really hoped to hear from Brent, Kevin, and Charles as well but I guess they are busy.
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Jon R Mar 10, 2010 02:31 PM

I think ambient heat works just fine for raising young animals. My youngsters are kept in 6" deli cups with no hot spot and they thrive. I think a basking area is beneficial for breeders though. All of my adults are allowed access to a 92 deg. hot spot and both the males and females use them daily to thermoregulate.

ddodge Mar 10, 2010 03:30 PM

I'm about to build another hatchling rack. I keep my room at 75 and my adult racks are 80 cool side and have a 90 degree hot spot via belly heat and that's working out great. My last rack I built for them has back heat, are you saying for juvis I may not need to add the heat? Thanks, Dustin

Jon R Mar 10, 2010 05:56 PM

I dont keep any of my juvi's on heat and they do great. But keep in mind, my room stays 80 deg. night. 86 deg. day, year round.

krhodes Mar 10, 2010 10:09 PM

Hmm... who to put together.
As far as temps go, ambient is 80 day & night.
Up to 85 day jun-Aug, 80 night.
Hotspots set @ 89. Lights on for 15 hours.

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