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Stillwater OK bullsnake lineage question...

toyvet Sep 21, 2003 09:58 AM

Could someone post the history of the Stillwater, OK Bullsnake local/lineage ?....I was in Veterinary School in Stillwater , OK until 1994.....Needless to say we never found such a beautiful snake during our field work !!!!!!!!! Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Replies (3)

ScottishCLK Sep 21, 2003 10:54 AM

Story has it that the founding stock were normal bulls collected in a Rattlesnake roundup.

Ginter Sep 23, 2003 11:20 AM

About a year or so after you graduated from vet school a friend of Adam marty's paid $10 bucks or so for two adult bullsnakes as a rescue attempt from a round-up in Stillwater OK. The seller claims that they were wild caught(these animals had the look of wild caught with scars to prove it),and came from close by Stillwater. Adam's friend gave them to Adam as he is/was huge into Pituophis. The following year Adam discovered that they where a sexual pair, had bred, and produced an unusual offspring. I saw the unusual offspring that summer and immediately gave him money for a pair of the next year's unusual offspring. Life goes on, Adam had some trouble and I ended up with the totally normal "wild type" adults, a number of possible het hatchlings and my founder Hypo-melanistic pair! The locality info rides on the word of the rattlesnake round-up collecter. I tend to believe that because there was no monitary gain in his being deceptive that the locality is accurate to "nearby Stillwater OK."

Unfortunately the Stillwater locality name is being used now for non-Stillwater OK. locality hypo-melanistic sayi and or locality outcrossed hypos. Oh well, I guess that is the name of the game.

Shaun Roberson Sep 30, 2003 11:38 AM

My partner had one of the siblings to the hets and the original hypo that you ended up with. I can post a picture of her when I find it at home(I'm at school now). Unfortunately, he lost her during hibernation a few years ago. She was an awesome snake, pretty large, too.

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