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I have read in Markels book that andeans typically have 24 plus red rings, with 30 being the average. Is this a good indicator for Andeans? Are there other good phenotypical indicators in verifying andeans? Ok, other than having a six foot milk with heavy black tipping LOL!!
Just curious. Any info would be appreciated.
KevinM
Yes Kevin, from 24 to 37 RBR, and a mean average of 30.7 red body rings to be precise..LOL!
Another big meristical difference is they usually have 19 scale rows at mid-body, as opposed to many others that have 21 or 23. Gaigeae also has 19 at mid-body(21 in micropholis). The white snout with narrow black margins is another key feature of andesiana, as well as the heavily tipped temporal band and white inner triad rings.
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing" 
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Doug, thanks for ring count verification, but MUCHO thanks for the midbody scale count info!! I am going to be a-counting dem scales when I get home from work tonight!!!
You're welcome Kevin!
Post a pic of your andesiana whenever you get a chance.
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com
as is usual. Note, though, that band and blotch counts have been reliably demonstrated to be of little value in identifying tricolored Lampropeltis. They are far too plastic. Scale counts are somewhat (but not totally) more reliable.
-Cole
L. t. multistrata - Powder River Co., MT
>>>Note, though, that band and blotch counts have been reliably demonstrated to be of little value in identifying tricolored Lampropeltis.
ya dont say...WOW such insight... could it be, NAHHHH
,,,,,,,,,,thomas davis
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Thanks Cole. I hear ya on the blotch counts, etc. SO MANY overlap with respect to using this method. The only data I have on the pair is the what the person I got them from advertised them as. No reason to suspect, but just wanted more info on the species in general.
Take Care!
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