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L8r Shannon

Hypo Andesiana???

Scott

guatemalan milk. L.T. Abnorma?? Just a wild guess! lol

Chris

>>Hypo Andesiana???
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>>Scott

The Flash is what makes it look like that.

Well what is it?
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Jason A.
"Long time Herper, first year Breeder `07."

With the way its been going for me and my "andeans", it looks like a normal tricolored honduran to me LOL.

polyzona.
unless you have locality data!
Jeff
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Let there be triangulum and lo, the milkhead was born.

Can't tell if it's the lighting/flash as to it being a hypo or not, but I'll go along with Jeff on it being a polyzona.

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

I'm not very good with this, but it looks like a cross...maybe micropholis and polyzona (and or honduresis, of course)...but it could be anything.

My other WAG would be a Hypo gaigeae!

Either way...it looks like a hypo to me.

-Rusty

Locality (Amealco) ruthveni crossed with locality polyzona. Joint project with you and Doug M.

LOL. Have no idea, please share.
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Mark

"Locality (Amealco) ruthveni crossed with locality polyzona. Joint project with you and Doug M."

Dangit Shannon!!, our secret project has somehow been let out of the bag!!

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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

That's definitely a snake.
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Scott MacLeod
2.6 Snow Hondurans
1.1 Aberrant Snow Hondurans
2.4 Aberrant Hondurans
1.3 Aberrant Tangerine Hondurans
1.2 Aberrant Hypo Hondurans
0.1 Aberrant Hybino Honduran
1.3 Extreme Hypo VP
1.1 Tricolor Hypo VP
0.1 Hypo E Sinaloan
1.0 Het Hypo E & Amel
0.1 Amel het Hypo E and Splotched
1.1 Albino Striped Sinaloan
2.7 Striped Splotched Sinaloan
1.2 Poss Het T pos Sinaloan
1.2 T pos Sinaloan

Ok, this is all I really know and its not all that solid.

A few years ago a importer in Las Angeles brought in a bunch of "honduran" milks.These must have been hondurans cause the shipment came from Honduris.LOL........

Anyway, there was a female that was gravid and she laid five eggs shortley after landing in L.A.
Two of the five snakes that hatched out where hypo.Sad thing is every single one was a male and the importer had sold off the female after she dropped the clutch.
I never saw the gravid snake so I really have no idea what she was for sure.
I did see 3 of the five babies and both the hypos.I want to say they are probably intergrade hondurensis x abnorma but its hard to say for sure.
Point of this is that all but the one I ended up with where sold off as normal hondurans.The one I ended up with I sold to a local guy for a pet.

Anyway, your guess is really as good as mine but they where cool looking none the less.

Here is the other hypo in the clutch.

L8r Shannon

Yeah, well, the tight high RBR count would explain abnorma being part of the equation(especially on the second one there), as that one has 24 with at least one "cross-overs". It sure does look way different than the other one too. I could make out that it had roughly 22 red rings in the other one, and I was thinking, well, it's extremely high(by one), but still "could" be a high-count poly.

Anyway, looking at the two snake's phenotype combined, I can certainly see the intergrade possibility there because the second one there really doesn't fit any one particular ssp. too well.

Now if you posted BOTH of those together in the same post, I think it would have helped out alot more with it..LOL!, but then again,...I knew you were trying to make it difficult for us anyway..LOL!

Man, them being hypo's is pretty darn interesting huh???...cool!

So are you going to throw those into the "hobby" Hondo kettle mixture??..HAHAHAA! , nothing there that isn't already in them to be quite honest(as you already know)..LOL!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

"So are you going to throw those into the "hobby" Hondo kettle mixture??..HAHAHAA! , nothing there that isn't already in them to be quite honest(as you already know)..LOL!"

I read it again and I see they already ARE added to the Hondo "hobby kettle"..HAHAHAAA!

And a great point too I might add!. That is the absolute reality of the way it is bro. I'm sure these abnorma I had in the mid 90's also made it into the slurry long ago as well.

~Doug

Same goes for these oligozona I let go MANY years ago before I knew exactly what they really were. But even then I sold them as "Central American milks" because I knew for a fact they weren't hondurensis, but couldn't quite put my finger on it back then.

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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

>>Ok, this is all I really know and its not all that solid.
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>>A few years ago a importer in Las Angeles brought in a bunch of "honduran" milks.These must have been hondurans cause the shipment came from Honduris.LOL........
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>>Anyway, there was a female that was gravid and she laid five eggs shortley after landing in L.A.
>>Two of the five snakes that hatched out where hypo.Sad thing is every single one was a male and the importer had sold off the female after she dropped the clutch.
>>I never saw the gravid snake so I really have no idea what she was for sure.
>>I did see 3 of the five babies and both the hypos.I want to say they are probably intergrade hondurensis x abnorma but its hard to say for sure.
>>Point of this is that all but the one I ended up with where sold off as normal hondurans.The one I ended up with I sold to a local guy for a pet.
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>>Anyway, your guess is really as good as mine but they where cool looking none the less.
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>>Here is the other hypo in the clutch.
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>>L8r Shannon
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Thanks for sharing!! The flash really dulls the colors would of never thought hypo, I wonder for those whom may have seen some of the first hypos(loves) as adults were they this tipped up? Interesting how much darker these animals are from what is typically sold..
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Jason A.
"Long time Herper, first year Breeder `07."

I wasn't to far of then. I kinda thought my guess was way off after seeing some of the other guesses. Well accept for the guess that it was a snake.lol. I totally agreed with that one.

Chris