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Banded?

Clint Boyer Sep 21, 2003 01:43 PM

This appeared in my Motley-Striped clutch. Is appearance all it takes to qualify as a Banded? The ventral is clear of checkering.


Replies (9)

Spardawolf Sep 21, 2003 01:55 PM

I don't know the answer to your question, but the snake is extremely nice. I love looking at pics of everyones beautiful corns. (And of course reading and learning from you all)
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SpardaWolf
Corn Snake Addict
"Always Learning"

carol Sep 21, 2003 02:45 PM

Did that one turn out to be male or female? It's one great little toy. I still can't help thinking the pattern looks just like Don's banded motleys. Which BTW, I was looking over my reverse trio of my amel banded motleys, I don't know if you rememeber, they were the ones I brought up with me. The female looks very much like your pic but amel, but guess what? Since she has gotten older, it has become noticable that she has a couple orange belly checks! Not suprising.

Clint Boyer Sep 21, 2003 03:04 PM

It just took it's second unassisted anole scented pink yesterday, so I'll have it for awhile yet.

I do remember those amel bandeds, I thought about talking you out of them but you know what my snake room looks like. One of these days someone will hatch out a Motley with a fully checkerd ventral!

I hope I can thin things out a bit at the upcoming shows.

Clint Boyer

Clint Boyer Sep 21, 2003 06:44 PM

From a different clutch.

This one has more MilkMot influence. It has sporatic ventral checkering.

carol Sep 21, 2003 11:56 PM

You know something is just starting to make me wonder... I am a bit slow but it is finally dawning on me. Have you ever noticed that there are two extremely different types of Milk Mot? There are the ones that have many banded saddles very close to each other that tend to wrap around like these two here and like my amel with the three split saddles and like the amel banded motleys. You notice that the saddles take up so much space that there is very little background color. Then there is the other type that have a lot fewer large blotches that also wrap around, but have lots of background space between the blotches. It is like two extremes, one has less background color showing between blotchs than your average corn, and the other has more background color showing between the blotches that the average corn. And I seem to be getting both types in a single clutch and that suddenly is seeming strange to me. To be able to get two extremes in one clutch. I really wonder why that is? Then there are the ones like the lastest one to hatch that I won't even begin to attempt describing thier type . I think if we work with these low background color types a few more years we can make it so that background color is just a thin little strip, or maybe almost non-existant. Perhaps yet a different approach to a patternless corn. Were you going to sell these ones if they were eating?

Clint Boyer Sep 22, 2003 12:58 AM

I tried to get you to take those with you!

Well, I was going to sell them both but you may have convinced me otherwise! I thought from the first that the first one I posted had a really different look to it. A no-background corn snake?!? Cooool

carol Sep 22, 2003 09:39 AM

I had thought you wanted to keep that banded for yourself, I would have. If you decide to keep that first one, great! If you get tired of it, let me know, I wouldn't want him/her to disappear at a show.

Amanda E Sep 22, 2003 06:22 PM

I have a snake that has a pattern that looks JUST like that, even with that "v" like connection of the background color.

I have no idea what her genetics are, but I was told she was probably het for something, but I wasn't told what. Do you think there is a possibility she could be het for motley?

Clint Boyer Sep 22, 2003 07:54 PM

I've never seen proven signs of being het Motley but mix in Milksnake phase and all bets are off.

The only way to know for sure is breeding trials. Breed it to a known Motley and see what you get.

I really don't think there are any simple recessive traits that can be identified in thier het state...Unless........well, some say you can tell a het Butter by it more intense yellow coloration.

Clint Boyer

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