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Trying to be accurate

great_bull Sep 21, 2003 04:28 PM

I have a pair of "Durango Mtn Kings" (at least that is how i bought them). But, I have seen others listed as San Louis Potasi that look just like them. My question is this...exactly how do I know for sure what I have. They are big enough to breed this coming season and would hate to list them under the wrong name.

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Zach_MexMilk Sep 21, 2003 09:28 PM

I am pretty sure that Durango's are mexicanan geeri, and that it is the subspecies of mexicana. Try searching for the other subspecies and compare pictures, etc. good luck
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Zach Lim
Carnivorous Plant Grower and Herper
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kingaz Sep 21, 2003 09:58 PM

San Luis Potosi kings and Durango kings are members of the same species, Lampropeltis mexicana. I believe they each used to be considered full blown subspecies', but are now considered different locality color morphs of the same animal. Usually the San Luis Potosi (mex-mex) has a darker background and wider red saddles than your snake. I belive you have a Durango Mtn. (Greeri) King.

Greg

lassiter Sep 21, 2003 11:02 PM

It is definitely a Greeri. Durango and San Luis Potosi are both in the Mexicana complex of snakes. These snakes do have an intergrade region in the state of Zacatecas. San Luis Potosi kings also intergrade with Ruthveni in the southern portions of the state near Queratero.
Good looking snake. Hope you hatch some out next year. I have to wait until 2005 to breed mine. Here is my light phased male I got from an ex employee of the Houston Zoo. It is from wildcaught animals collected by the zoo back in the early 80s. These animals have been line bred for 20 years.

John Lassiter

great_bull Sep 21, 2003 11:44 PM

I had heard that the queratero and the greeri intergrade naturaly and was considering getting an albino queratero female to go with my male greeri. I think that a saddled albino would look better than the banded queratero. Just my opinion though. Your light phase is extremely nice. I would like to work towards some pure animals toward that end and some intergrades for fun. Long project though. Hopefully this coming year I will have a good start! Thanks again everyone.
Mike

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