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Distribution of Yellow Tail Cribos

Caribbeanboids Sep 21, 2003 04:52 PM

Hi,
I've found different information about the distribution of Yellow Tail Cribos. Some sources say they occur in Central America other sources say they don't. Can somebody please help me here. What is their range in Central America (how far north)or do they only exist in South America?
Thanks a lot!

Replies (12)

DeanAlessandrini Sep 22, 2003 07:54 AM

yt cribos occur only in South America.

They range over the northern portion of SA East of the andes, west to Guyana and Suriname, then south though southern Brazil.

Most of the specimens in the US seem to be coming out of Guyana or Suriname.

Caribbeanboids Sep 22, 2003 11:39 AM

Thanks Dean!
Unfortunately, some sources such as www.indigosnakes.com and www.indigosnakes.de still state that they also occur in southern Central America. So, it's only melanurus and unicolor which occur in Central America.
I understand that you keep and breed Yellow Tails. How big are your adult Yellow Tails and how fast do the hatchlings grow? I could not find information about the growth rate of young Yellow Tails, e.g. how big are they after a year and two years (appr.)? The reason why I am asking is that I possibly get a pair of CB03 and I would like to know how fast they grow.
Thanks again,
CB

oldherper Sep 22, 2003 12:32 PM

If you consider Mexico as part of Central America, there is also rubidus and erebennus.

Caribbeanboids Sep 22, 2003 04:21 PM

Hi oldherper,
Good point, you are right. I left those species out because I was more looking at southern Central America.
Thanks,
CB

dan felice Sep 22, 2003 07:37 PM

mexico is part of north america and is not northern central america. since there is enough confusion already surrounding this genus, i thought we should get clear on that one right away.....i used to think think that too till sister st. pain 'instructed' me otherwise back in grade school. haha.........

oldherper Sep 22, 2003 09:47 PM

You are correct, of course. That's why I said "if you consider Mexico as part of Central America". It is not really part of Central America, that is Belize, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama, El Salvadore and Guatemala. For some reason, I have always (incorrectly and even though I knew it was incorrect) thought of Mexico as the northern part of Central America. I think it has to do with language, Mexico and Central America being mostly Spanish speaking and the U.S. and Canada being mostly English speaking. But, you are also correct in that this tends to muddy things up a little..

bobl Sep 22, 2003 09:50 PM

There is also a colony of YT's in Massachusetts. LOL

Doug T Sep 23, 2003 10:17 AM

New England does seem to have an odd magnetic force that sucks in Yellow Tails. I've seen them migrate 3000 miles west of Mass' only to be sucked into the Yellow Tail Black Hole. I'm afraid if this keeps up much longer, the populations of YTC's in South America could all soon be moving to MASS.

DT

bobl Sep 23, 2003 04:03 PM

Doug,

Thanks for your contribution to my never ending search for high yellow YT Cribos!
Along with your 3, I'll have 4 from Don Bordners line and a w.c. 2 1/2 foot juvie male coming this week.
It feels like Christmas!!!!!

Bobby

dan felice Sep 23, 2003 07:40 AM

it does seem that way doesn't it? i only brought it up because i began to see carribeanboids 're-drawing' international borders. but the joke is on him cause i gave the convent his email address. lol! as far as massachusetts goes....i think it broke off canada a few years ago and just lucked out, snagging on rocky coastline. lately however, it has been confused w/ suriname for good reason. the next thing you know, the ytc will be named the state reptile. do not underestimate the power of THE WALL or we may all be sorry one day.........;-]

bobl Sep 23, 2003 04:08 PM

State reptile eh!
I'll have to look into that one, but I think our almighty Garter Snake may take offense. LOL

dwight Sep 23, 2003 07:47 PM

As far as I know, Yellowtails occur only in South America, Trinidad & Tobago. Dean is right in saying that current imports are originating from Guyana, Suriname and perhaps Venezula. Drymarchon corais melanurus does push into nothern South America, Venezuela and Columbia. An interesting note that when my my wife and her ex hubby were in Tobago, she remenbers seeing large dead snakes on the road which had yellow tails!! I showed her some Y/T's a year ago and she said "bingo" that is them. A friend of mine said that he was lucky to see one in Trindad years ago with Hans Boooz, crossing the road. He said that it had a bright orange tail. I tell Tom that the Sun must have been real bright!! Just some notes

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