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Leucistic Western Hognose

CBH Apr 05, 2010 12:59 PM

Anyone have these..... I know they exist.

-Chris
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Replies (15)

RedDevil Apr 05, 2010 07:25 PM

I heard that a few people still have their hets somehow, but haven't heard of anyone with a visual. If anyone does have them they're probably not going to tell anyone.

Someone did post here last year saying that Bushmaster was working on legally purchasing the confiscated ones. Haven't heard anything about that since, though. Really hoping that is true.

GregBennett Apr 05, 2010 07:40 PM

From what I've heard the Denver Zoo has the visual and if they are successful in producing offspring from that animal they will sell them to Bushmaster and then the hets and any visuals will become legal.

The above is second hand information.
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Greg Bennett
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RedDevil Apr 05, 2010 09:20 PM

Do you know if they have even attempted to breed them yet? I'm surprised they haven't reproduced them yet; they are sitting on a small (or maybe not-so-small) fortune.

brhaco Apr 05, 2010 09:31 PM

The ability of zoos to breed ANY reptile varies wildly-some are very professional and skilled at all aspects of husbandry and breeding. Others couldn't breed leopard geckos
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GregBennett Apr 05, 2010 09:56 PM

Very true.
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Greg Bennett
520.Hognose (520.464.6673)

GregBennett Apr 05, 2010 09:58 PM

>>Do you know if they have even attempted to breed them yet? I'm surprised they haven't reproduced them yet; they are sitting on a small (or maybe not-so-small) fortune.

I have no idea if there have been any attempts. I do know that the visual animal is of a large size.
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Greg Bennett
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CBH Apr 05, 2010 10:18 PM

Well there are a couple male leucistic western hogs in a collection here in MN. Supposedly wild collected from Texas. What is the deal with the confiscated individuals? Why were they seized.

kachunga Apr 07, 2010 09:51 AM

Because in the state (Colorado if I remember correctly) they were found in, it is illegal to collect native specimens.
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1.0 Albino American alligator, "Smoke"
1.1 American alligator,"Al Bite Ya & Molly"
1.1 Purple Albino Reticulated Pythons, "Gumbo & Abita"
0.1 Eastern Gaboon Viper, "Gabbie" Recently passed away at 24 years old
Help me find this snake!

dskagen Apr 07, 2010 10:54 AM

thats not the reason they were confiscated...
first off it is legal to colect and keep 4 wild specimans a year and a total of 12 over all.
the individual that caught the origanal gravid female was in possesion of several HOT's and his entire collection was confiscated including the hogs.

CBH Apr 07, 2010 01:13 PM

I was under the impression that these are from a Texas locale...?

-Chris

dskagen Apr 07, 2010 01:32 PM

From everything i understand the original lucys were hatched from a gravid WC souhern colorado female.
they hatched out 2? lucys and 3? possible hets

kachunga Apr 07, 2010 11:21 PM

Oh, ok. Thanks for the correction. I had heard wrong.
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1.0 Albino American alligator, "Smoke"
1.1 American alligator,"Al Bite Ya & Molly"
1.1 Purple Albino Reticulated Pythons, "Gumbo & Abita"
0.1 Eastern Gaboon Viper, "Gabbie" Recently passed away at 24 years old
Help me find this snake!

krhodes Apr 07, 2010 04:56 PM

http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74556&page=3

found this nice photo and storyline.

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Thank you,
Kevin Rhodes
http://www.freewebs.com/spreptile/hognose.htm
http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc314/lifesciences/?action=view¤t=09-09hognose001.jpg

CBH Apr 07, 2010 05:31 PM

I have seen a photo with 3 leucistic W. hogs and know someone with 2 males.... So there were at least 3, that is if they are all from the same spot.

-Chris

Sunherp Apr 08, 2010 04:14 PM

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