"1)....Is that surprising that so many don't know what they are actually getting?,...(answer)..no, actually, it is only inevitable that this happens quite often."
They are getting a snake. A captive bred and therefore unnatural specimen. that will be true no matter how you document the blood line.
"2)....and what about all the babies that are created from these already "un-known" crosses?,....and their babies babies, and so on forever. AND what are they even being bred with? "
Other captive bred unnatural snakes. I agree that it would be great to have a lineage, I recommend that you document your snakes and only buy from people who do so you can be specific about the gene pool your snake comes from. But even if every documented everything there would still be people who choose a different gene pool then one that you like to each their own.
3)....many people that acquire these un-knowns, or ANY snakes for that matter aren't very experienced at all with snake identification, or have ANY meristical identifying experience, so they will call any of these un-known crossed snakes whatever they think they tend to best represent at the time. Then of course SOLD as such too.
They are what they are,captive bred unnatural snakes. If they can't tell the difference and the people who buy them can't tell the difference then what does it matter? Your afraid that their unnatural snakes will be mixed in some unnoticable way with your unnatural snakes?
"4)....what do the buyer's of ALL THESE UN-KNOWN SNAKES DO???
yes!,....they breed them of course,....and to what exactly??"
Other captive bred unnatural snakes you seem to be unable to get beyond this point in your logic.
"5)....and THIS is the real irony of all this. If people didn't cross stuff all the time, nobody would even be seeing this issue CONSTANTLY being talked about, now would they??..LOL!"
Thats like saying if everyone agreed with me I wouldn't disagree with them, it's a nonsensical point.
"6)....The fact that it has already been done for so long, it is always more evident that the "fruits" of all these crosses are becoming more and more evident every single breeding season."
The fact is that all captive breeding is unnatural the only way to preserve the natural snake is to preserve nature, everything we take out of it becomes tainted because we have removed it from the natural selection process.
"7)....If more people did more in-depth studying on snakes, they would become MUCH more aware of exactly what the heck they are looking at anyway, but this seems to be basic human nature, to not bother learning a whole lot(because it takes too much time and effort), but yet still want to jump into breeding them with both feet without really KNOWING anything about snakes first, and the many key differences."
Like with anything else, wines, beers, etc. There will always be disagreements over what is best it's just a matter of taste. Your preference for Chateau Lafite is not diminshed by someone elses taste for mad dog 20/20.
"8)...BTW,....this year will produce who knows HOW MANY more countless crosses into the hobby to pass on their unknown genetics to whatever the heck they are bred with as well."
Eventually, quite soon, we will have genetically engineered snakes to add to the list, imagine a kingsnake that have been give a growth gene from burmese python. Or a glow in the dark Garter snake that has been give a gene for the FGP protien, this is already being done with amphibians and tropical fish.
"These are just a few very valid reasons,...I could go on and on, but don't see a real need to."
I haven't heard any valid arguments yet, just your personal taste which is fine. Your welcome to like what you like, that doesn't make someone elses likes evil or bad. No one will force you to buy a hybrid. It's up to you and people like you to maintain and document the gene pool your trying to create. others will choose to preserve and document other gene pools some simply won't care at all, there is room in this hobby for all the snakes just as their is room for blue label and Heiniken.
