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Ravenspirit Apr 29, 2010 04:13 PM

State poised to ban the sale of Burmese pythons
Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/04/29/1603455/state-poised-to-ban-the-sale-of.html

And similar - http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/apr/28/281515/exotic-reptile-ownership-under-scrutiny-state-comm/news-metro/
State commission approves ban on large exotic reptiles

(It says Boa constrictors are included in this ban, I thought they weren't? This just more bad reporting?)

Pay close attention to the "see who owns these animals" feature, like they have on the sex offender sites...
http://www2.tbo.com/static/news-special-reports-data-bay/tbo-special-reports-snake-licenses/
So, according to that - "Nearly 350 people and businesses in Florida are licensed to own what the state classifies as “reptiles of concern” (ROC) or “venomous reptiles” (VR). Use this database to see who has one in your neighborhood or if your neighbor has a license to keep that python or anaconda."

Anyone else feel like that is not only creepy as hell, but puts us as snake owners in danger of crazies?

And -

http://media-newswire.com/release_1118190.html
The HSUS Commends Florida for Restricting Trade of Giant Snakes

Replies (4)

jscrick Apr 29, 2010 06:04 PM

I remember the days when the public just ignored us. We marched to the beat of a different drummer. We were eccentric, but harmless, that's all. To each his own. Now we've got a target on our backs and we're in the sights of everyone. These days, it's like we're subversives and un-American.

Whatever happened to live and let live...and can't we all just get along?

It is so ironic that the liberal philosophy, the one espousing acceptance and tolerance, and to diversity; is the loudest and most persistent intolerant voice in this debate.

jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

Ravenspirit Apr 29, 2010 08:43 PM

"It is so ironic that the liberal philosophy, the one espousing acceptance and tolerance, and to diversity; is the loudest and most persistent intolerant voice in this debate."

Maybe...

I still think this snake keepers are the enemy thing passes party grounds way too much to make generalized statements like that about it. Sure, the liberal (democrat) side of things is certainly being intolerant, and they seem very open to the applauding of animal rights agenda groups, but I personally know plenty of red blooded republicans who think I (and the lot of us) are mutant space creatures for keeping and breeding snakes, and don't feel there is any place for "our kind of people" here too.

I am aware it has been some of the Republicans who have stepped up to plate a little for us, but there are just as many who are for seeing this thing through, and those snakes gone.

I do think that the "liberal" side is usually a little more willing to accept what PETA and HSUS tells them as a fact without "checking".

I think the BIGGEST part of this right now is the strength of the humaniac/AR push, followed with a hefty dose of pure, unadulterated ignorance, and the way that the media, on all fronts is using that ignorance and making us and our animals out to be monsters.

The same sort of thing goes for other similar exotic bans. The AR crowds have been working on this sort of thing for years, it just happened that feral burms turned out to be too good of an opportunity to pass up. Check out http://www.rexano.org/ and read back...

The big cat & primates people & were among the first to be strategically attacked, not backed, and fall. For all of those reading this who are anti this current legislation who said "well, they really shouldn't be able to keep a tiger/baboon anyway" - well...shame on you. This is all part of the same ticket.

Simply said - Public opinion is everything, and right now, we have the same PR problems that our chosen pets have.

To quote David Martosko from CFCF -

"Eighty-three percent have a favorable view of HSUS. Seventy-one percent of Americans believe HSUS is an umbrella group for local pet shelters. Sixty-three percent believe their own local animal shelter is affiliated with HSUS. And 59 percent believe HSUS shares most of its money with local pet shelters.

They are all wrong, notes Martosko. But 25 percent of Americans still believe animals deserve the same rights as people."

jscrick Apr 29, 2010 09:14 PM

I did not mention any party. It is emotion/sentiment/mentality/philosophy based. Has nothing to do with political affiliation.
jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

Ravenspirit Apr 29, 2010 09:26 PM

Ah, then yes. Sorry for misinterpreting (and the associated rant)

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