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What will I get if I breed my amel corn to my creamsicle corn?

Technically, all the babies would be creamsickles. They will all be amelanistic mixes of corns and great plains ratsnakes just like a creamsickle, but the great plains ratsnake blood will be diluted further with breeding to a corn and not another creamsickle. Probably less orange and more pink/red in color too, looking more like an amel corn.

Hi Kevin. Thank you for your response. I just discovered that the male is a hypo amel, not just an amel. If I breed him to the creamsickle corns will I still get diluted creamsickles, or something different. Thanks again!

You would still get diluted creamsickles, except they will be het. or carry the hypo gene. If you bred the male, or his offspring to a hypo corn or cinnamin corn (hypo corn x great plains ratsnake), you will get hypo babies in the mix. However, you wont see the hypo gene expressed in the amel corns or creamsickles. Hypo reduces the black, while amel completely eliminates the black. So, if you only breed creamsickles, which are amels as well, you will not see the hypo gene expressed in the young.

Thanks again. One last scenario for you. I have an 2008 Xanthic Snow corn. I want to breed him to my creamsickles next year. What will I get?

A snow corn is a morph that is expressing two different simple recessive traits that are both simultaneously visible. Anerytherism (lacking red), and amelanism (lacking black). Thats why a snow looks like a washed out amel. If you breed a snow to a creamsickle (basically an amel corn for all practical purposes), you will get all diluted creamsickles carrying the anery gene. If you breed the snow back to his daughters, or a brother to sister from the young, you will get diluted creamsickles (amels), and diluted snow (amel and anery) creamsickles. Since there is emoryi blood in the mix, the babies will/SHOULD always be referred to as creamsickles indicating they have emoryi blood in them. Remember, all a creamsickle is is an amelanistic version of an emorys or greatplains ratsnake bred to a corn. All to often, mixes like yours loose the unique coloration of a 50/50 mix creamsickle (orange sherbert look, hence the term creamsickle) and just go out the door labled as whaterver morph of corn they most look like (ie, amel corns, snow corns, etc.).

If you are referring to the light to moderate yellow cast of pigment the snow has, that is simply a variable characteristic, and not a recessive "xanthic" mutation per se, unless it is from ...say, the "butter" gene, because those are derived from a recessive "xanthic"/hyperxanthic gene.

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