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Restraining while probing

varanid May 05, 2010 03:21 PM

I tried to probe the rescued flordia king I got a while back and he utterly flipped out. Even when both my wife and myself were involved I was afraid he'd struggled enough to hurt himself (impale himself on a probe maybe). She took the head and forebody while I tried to restrain the posterior and probe...Chomper's usually really calm but DAMN that didn't go over well. Immediate musking, thrashing, etc. Any ideas on keeping him/her STILL?
I did take a picture:

not sure it turned out well enough, the plastic really got in the way of the shot. Can anyone tell from that?

THe lady's a friend of my wife. The snake she's holding is chomper

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Replies (14)

ChristopherD May 05, 2010 03:38 PM

Try putting 3/4s of the snake under you arm (pit) exposing the posterior of your patient

ChristopherD May 05, 2010 03:41 PM

There are a few rules on this ship,RULE 1 is the Capt is always right ,if in doubt revert to rule 1

KevinM May 05, 2010 04:27 PM

I quess you could keep him/her a bit cooler by turning any supplemental heat off for awhile. That may slow it down enough to get the job done. Other than two folks holding as tried, maybe try a restraining tube. They are clear tubes used in venomous research. The snake is basically guided into the tube until the head and part of the body is inside. It doesnt allow the snake to turn around and bite you during probing, tagging, study, etc. I would think any piece of plastic pipe or sturdy cardboard tube narrow enough to allow the snake to climb in and not turn around would work as long as the head doesnt come out the other side to nail you LOL!! Looking at your pic, I would guess your snake is female by the pretty dramatic taper of the tail past the vent and overall tail length.

venomousdave May 05, 2010 06:47 PM

you could always use a ghetto restraining tube...i.e. paper towel holder with one end taped. Also putting most of the animal in a pillowcase works well.

ssshane May 05, 2010 06:51 PM

The pillow case trick works very well.
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varanid May 05, 2010 07:05 PM

I like the tube idea, will try that I've even helped people using the damn things, I really shoulda thought of that.


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We wouldn't have 6 and a half billion people if you had to be beautiful to get laid.
6.6 African House snakes
3.2 reticulated pythons
.1 corn snake
4.2 Florida Kings
1.2 speckled kings
1.2 ball pythons
0.0.1 Argentine boa

varanid May 05, 2010 08:14 PM

I tried to take pictures after I fed Chomper today but most didn't turn out.

Here's one, looking for another mouse.

usually she's on cypress but until I get these damn ants under control, it's newspapers or paper towels. I've made (slow) progress against them though.
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We wouldn't have 6 and a half billion people if you had to be beautiful to get laid.
6.6 African House snakes
3.2 reticulated pythons
.1 corn snake
4.2 Florida Kings
1.2 speckled kings
1.2 ball pythons
0.0.1 Argentine boa

DMong May 05, 2010 07:22 PM

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Bluerosy May 05, 2010 09:20 PM

she looks gravid. that might explain why she is flipping out.

in which case don't cool or handle her.

if she has not been with a male then she is ovulating. Either way leave her alone.
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varanid May 05, 2010 09:27 PM

she hasn't been with a male. I wonder if that axanthic I got from you could mate her? I'm afraid to find out, cause she's probably the most aggressive feeder I've seen in years. and I worry he'd be a snack.
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We wouldn't have 6 and a half billion people if you had to be beautiful to get laid.
6.6 African House snakes
3.2 reticulated pythons
.1 corn snake
4.2 Florida Kings
1.2 speckled kings
1.2 ball pythons
0.0.1 Argentine boa

Bluerosy May 05, 2010 11:02 PM

She looks like she is swollen on the lower half of her body in the first post with the girl holding her. If that was a recent pic, she probably is ovulating and you should try putting the male in with her after she eats. Then watch them for a while to make sure she is not grabbing him.
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varanid May 05, 2010 11:31 PM

it was in early April, so recent-ish. I'll give it a go tomorrow or the day after. It'll probably the possible het though; the axanthic just went into blue *sigh*
She just scarfed a mouse this afternoon. She's come a very long way in the time I've had her--Sept. or Oct. 7 or 8 months of good feeding does wonders
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We wouldn't have 6 and a half billion people if you had to be beautiful to get laid.
6.6 African House snakes
3.2 reticulated pythons
.1 corn snake
4.2 Florida Kings
1.2 speckled kings
1.2 ball pythons
0.0.1 Argentine boa

Bluerosy May 06, 2010 12:59 AM

Posted by: varanid at Wed May 5 23:31:40 2010 [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by varanid ]

it was in early April, so recent-ish. I'll give it a go tomorrow or the day after. It'll probably the possible het though; the axanthic just went into blue *sigh*
She just scarfed a mouse this afternoon. She's come a very long way in the time I've had her--Sept. or Oct. 7 or 8 months of good feeding does wonders

If he is in the blue and she just ate. Then this time might be good to introduce them. This way the male won't be as skittish- being in with a snake larger than itself. Your female won't have interest in him becuae she just fed on sevral small mice (correct?) and the less skittsish movement dones by the smaller male 9because he is the blue he will be less likely to try and fleee, this causing a panic snake trying its way out of tghe encloser. * This 'skittish" behaviot by tghe male seems to attract/induce a snake to feeding on it. I don't know what to call it, motion attracts attention as to a food source.

If ya keep an eye on them and they get through a small period of time. They will bond. Bonding can be done in many ways and this is one method i would try. By the time he sheds ,they will be accostomed to one another (bonded) and will recogonize each other as part of there "group" and not as pedator and food.

If you female ovulates again and your male is at least 20". You have a good chance of seeing breeding sttempts.

here is an example of big mama (het pewter)with sibling visual Pewter male, copluating. As you can see in the pic, the size difference. i have even smaller males breeding with even larger females in my colony with no problems. At first i was lery , but made sure te female ate before introducing tghem and then kept and eye on them for te first few minuyes. note* A fleeying male does not indicate she is trying to eat him. If she decideds to eat him she wilol grab him like a mouse and wtap hersely all atound him. This is your indicator to step in nd seperate them. i usually throw them into a bucket of cold water LOLOL..well it works. She will reales him and then just keep them seperate until that male starts to produce viable sperm,


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varanid May 06, 2010 08:42 AM

he's about 20-24". I'll give it a go after work today Looking forward to it.

That picture you posted is about the size difference they'll be I think He's not tiny for his age, but compared to her...
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We wouldn't have 6 and a half billion people if you had to be beautiful to get laid.
6.6 African House snakes
3.2 reticulated pythons
.1 corn snake
4.2 Florida Kings
1.2 speckled kings
1.2 ball pythons
0.0.1 Argentine boa

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