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This clutch was from a Black Widow bred to a normal.

In the 5 egg Black Widow clutch here is what I hatched.

1.0 Black Widow
0.1 Black Pewter
1.0 Bumble Bee
0.1 Black Pastel
1.0 Spider

Black Widow

Black Pewter

Bumble Bee

Black Pastel

Pretty nice way to start!
Constrictors Unlimited

Very Nice Mike!

What's a black widow?

Judging by the animals you got...I'm going to say Spider/pastel/black pastel?
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If all the beasts were gone,
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For what happens to the beasts,
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That's what I was thinking!

You are correct. It's the Black Pastel Spider Pastel.

>>What's a black widow?
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>>Judging by the animals you got...I'm going to say Spider/pastel/black pastel?
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>>"What is man without the beasts?
>>If all the beasts were gone,
>>men would die from great loneliness of spirit.
>>For what happens to the beasts,
>>soon happens to men.
>>All things are connected."
>>
>>-Chief Seattle (Duwamish Tribe)
Constrictors Unlimited

WOW! What a fantastic clutch! The black widow and black pastel are so clean that they look axanthic! Big congrats.

Please post pics as they grow. I'd love to see them.
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What makes the Black Widow?

Hey, Thats a great looking clutch. Congratulations on such a fine bunch of babies and a great mix. Jay
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JEM from sunny AZ.

3.25 Normals
3.10 Pastels
1.0 Super Pastels(Thanks Dan Wolf for the best looking Super male I have ever seen)
1.7 Normal Spiders
1.1 Spiders 100% het Ghost(thanks Mark Petros)
0.2 Spiders 66% het Ghost(Thanks Steve Beamer)
1.3 Orange/Butterscotch Ghosts(BallPython777 Mark Petros)
0.6 100% het Orange Ghosts
0.3 66% het Orange Ghosts(should prove this year)
0.1 Pastel Ghost
1.0 Citrus Ghost(courtesy of Josh Hutto)
0.1 Super Pastel 100% het Ghost
2.3 Albinos
1.1 Caramel Albinos
0.1 100% het Caramel Albino
0.4 100% het for Albino
0.5 66% het for Albino(should prove this year)
0.7 Yellow Bellies
1.0 Pastel Yellow Belly
1.2 Ivories
1.2 100% het for Clowns(Mark Petros)
1.6 Cinnamons(Thanks Stan Ruppel)
1.0 Pied
1.4 100% het for Pied(Josh Hutto)
0.5 66% het for Pied(should prove out next year with my visual male Pied)
1.5 Mojaves
0.1 Pastave het Ghost
1.1 Beautiful Black Pastels(thanks Gulf Coast Reptiles)
1.2 BumbleBees(thanks for the AWESOME Bees Marc Bailey)
1.1 Pewters(Myself and Scott Priester of Brookside Reptiles)
0.1 Chocolates(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
1.3 Lessers(Josh Hutto)
2.1 Fire's(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
2.2 High White Calico's(Thanks Brent from BRB)
1.1 SpotNoses(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
1.1 Enchi's (Me and Josh Hutto, Thanks again Josh)
1.0 Pinstripe
0.1 Lemon Blast
1.0 Vanilla Ghost(Thanks again GCR for all the great snakes)
0.1 Vanilla Yellow Belly
0.1 Vanilla(Another one from Josh Hutto,I must have all your snakes now...lol.) Thanks my friend, Jay
1.1 Stillwater Hypo Bull snakes(Brad Chambers)
0.0.1 Vietnamese Blue Beauty
1.2 Argentinian Black and White Tegus
1.0 Gotti Pitbull
2.0 Beautiful Bengals
14 Tarantulas
Last but most Important 2.2 Children

Very Nice!!! Congrats on the Great odds!

The Super versions of the Black Widow should be pretty interesting!

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Jon
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i believe its a bumblebee made with a black pastel x spider...
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Hector

it is made with a pastel x black pastel x spider...
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Hector

That's what I thought, since it made a pewter and a bumblebee when bred to a normal.

So essentially it's a Pewter-Bee.
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"What is man without the beasts?
If all the beasts were gone,
men would die from great loneliness of spirit.
For what happens to the beasts,
soon happens to men.
All things are connected."

-Chief Seattle (Duwamish Tribe)

that's what I thought it was and I've seen several animals with that combo and they are referred to as pewter bees. Why must everyone make things complicated. Heck with all the mutations we have it will make itself complicated without our help, lol. All this is mute if that animals isn't a pewter bee but it looks like every other one I've seen.
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Various Ball Pythons, boas, dogs, cats, fish, a couple sulcatas and a few other odds and ends.

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I believe the pewter bee uses the cinnamon, and the black widow uses the black pastel.

Sorry ,

Mike , congrats on a number of incredible accomplishments over the years...but i can't see a single snake out there , or in your clutch that warrents the name Black Widow......someone else had pictures of something called a Black Widow too......sorry , the name doesn't even come close to describing the animal............I'm i the only one in this industry that believes the name should should fit ...visually too . just looks like ans Axanthic Bee if you as me..just my humble opinion

sorry to burst the bubble, but congrats ona great clutch

rich-osc

TOOO cool cluts Mike..congrats

awesome!
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