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anyone breeding some nice classic easterns?

I agree. But the tough part is that there is SO much variation! My personal pick is the Virginia Beach locality -- gimme some good black with THICK, wiiiide quality white bands and I'm set. *feeling faint*
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Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

gimme some good black with THICK, wiiiide quality white bands and I'm set

LOL! You are a one trick pony.
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www.Bluerosy.com

Meaning???

Are you busting my chops again tea bagger? LMAO.
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Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

>>Meaning???
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>>Are you busting my chops again tea bagger? LMAO.

LOL.....
Sounds like you've been talking to Shannon.....hehe
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

Oh i can dance in more ways than one my friend.......and dish it out as well as i can take it. But it's all good.
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Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

>>Oh i can dance in more ways than one my friend.......and dish it out as well as i can take it. But it's all good.

You do know that is Shannon's pet name for Rainer, right?......LOL
I think it started back in 2005.......In Daytona....But it may have roots farther back than that...........It is still funny but Rainer may not think so......hehehe
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

Ask me if I care........Rainer and i are cool with each other. Do you think I'd post this pic if we weren't? It takes a REAL man to don a leopard print shirt, and I respect that dammit.

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Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

>>Ask me if I care........Rainer and i are cool with each other. Do you think I'd post this pic if we weren't? It takes a REAL man to don a leopard print shirt, and I respect that dammit.

LOL.......That is CLASSIC....In more ways than one.....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

When I get to Daytona eventually we will all just chill and have fun.....maybe even slaphappy.....and laugh about the forum ups and downs. Maybe even a pillow fight.
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Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

>>When I get to Daytona eventually we will all just chill and have fun.....maybe even slaphappy.....and laugh about the forum ups and downs. Maybe even a pillow fight.

That has all been done before but not with you Jerry........lol
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

That'll do John......that'll do........
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Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

Ugh! I don't even know where to begin.

..just forget it.
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www.Bluerosy.com

LOL! You can buy the first shot when the time comes Rainer....and I was referring to hooch.
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Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

Looks like ya'll were doing Peyote, lol. Fighting off giants and monsters...
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra

np

I will be hunting for some Va Beach breeders this year also! Any of you guys that have them can contact me if you want.(hint-hint)
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra

The clean white ones with wide banding can be found all throughout Chesapeake and as far down as Currituck and Pasquotank NC.

Of course, there's a high variability within all of them but they're from all over that area.

The gene flow is cool...Currituck is heading towards Dare county and the OBX where they got landlocked, etc...

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Chris Jones
King of Kings Reptiles

http://www.kingofkingsreptiles.com/

"All the fancy names in the world will be of no help if you do not know the difference between chocolate pudding and pig poop." -Frank Retes

I know many of you like the wider white bands, but if thats the case, why not just get high white Cal Kings since they are closest to what you all seem to like???

Its just me I guess, but I like easterns to look more like classics with slightly narrower bands. Then again, I dont breed high contrast black and white Cals, but like brown and yellow Coastals.

Cal Kings just don't get my heart racing. I like that Classic Chain Pattern and the impressive muscular build that Chains have. Problem is there is a lot of variance as already mentioned. I'm not nessecarily looking for wide bands but clean white Chain patterns. Crimson King (Mark) has some nice stock of localities.
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra

Actually, the most muscular king I have is the Coastal Cal in the pic below.

Before I got my first female eastern last year, I never really considered them very seriously, now its JUST the opposite...

I now work with Coastal Cals, Houston TX area lemon Speckleds, Kentucky Blacks, and ...Easterns haha.

Please, post some lemons if you could?
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra

you got it , this pic is of my Harris County TX male that I took this past fall

That's very nice! We can't call those "Salt and Pepper" snakes, lol. Thanks for the picture.
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra

I may have soiled my knickers........

That's not nice chris......I demand a full-body shot of that snake along with its' mate.....
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Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

That's a REALLY nice eastern there Chris. I'd like to chime in on this though. True nice clean whites are found throughout the area but in my experieince, the populations from the Princess Anne area of Virginia Beach down through Pungo are more consistantly clean. That said two of the best I ever found were from Currituck.
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“Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind.” Emmerson

WWW.TDSNAKES.BLOGSPOT.COM

.....as I'm planning on heading down to Va Beach for Memorial Day weekend........I've already warned Howie.......LOL.
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Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

Try contacting Howie Sherman -- Strikers Herps.......his site is on KS. Seek and ye shall find.......
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Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

Do you know if he attends Daytona? I will check out his site, thanks again. Oh take care of my snakes, lol.
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra

you're most welcome.......and I will........
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Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

Im also planning on hitting Va Beach soon as well.....hmmmmmm.......
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Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

I have Currituck, NC and a few other locales but I'm still waiting on my Jersey ones to mature. I really like the thin white bands that are 1 scale wide or even less.
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

crimsonking.piczo.com/

YOU FORGOT THE PHOTOS........
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Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

yeah..ones I have from MD aren't bad either...
If I can get some pix up of some damn fine Jersey kings, you'll agree that they're right up there with the best looking ones.
....Gotta get motivated..
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

crimsonking.piczo.com/

Go for it, as I'll be waiting..........I can squeeze ONE more pair of kings in and I'd like it to be a killer pair of easterns.
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Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

Here's a lil Jersey eastern........I just don't think they compare to their southern counterparts......but each to their own.......Jersey easterns are quite unique actually -- a tad smaller as well.

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Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

LOL I have some nice Easterns, some of Jim Seargents Lemon speckleds from Harris County Texas, A Sulfur Brooks from Brandon Osborn and all sorts of other favorite stuff etc. But you guys, showing and talking about all these other awesome Kings like the Black and White Zonata have reduced me to sitting in the corner repeating.. "you can't keep it all"..."you can't keep it all", "You can't keep it all"..... LOL

Being around Y'all is not good for the dscipline of keeping a small collection. No more pics. Mercy....LOL

You've seen the big one AC used to have? I think there's a pic on EK resource site..
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

crimsonking.piczo.com/

Wow, I havent seen the eastern king resource site in eons....there was a time even mentioning such a thing could get you booted on KS. But no, I don't recall it. I'm heading down to Va Beach for memorial Day weekend and will try my luck and see what happens. I will post my success, or not, after my trek. Thanks for reminding me of that site, as for some reason I thought it was no more.
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Jerry Kruse
www.zonatas.com

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."