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Where have all the lizards gone?

jscrick May 16, 2010 03:01 PM

Lizard Extinctions Blamed on Global Warming

from the Washington Post (Registration Required)

When it comes to the hazards of global warming, it may turn out that lizards in burrows are the canaries in the coal mine.

In a study to be published Friday in the journal Science, an international team of biologists reports that in more than one-tenth of the places in Mexico where lizards flourished in 1975 the reptiles now cannot be found. The researchers predict that by 2080 about 40 percent of local lizard populations worldwide will have died off, and 20 percent of lizard species will be extinct.

The reason for the huge die-off appears to be rising temperatures. But it isn't heat that is killing the lizards directly. Instead, global warming appears to be lengthening the period of the day when lizards must seek shelter or run the risk of heat stroke. In the breeding season, that sheltering period is now so long that females of many species are unable to eat enough food to produce eggs and offspring.

See the complete article at

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Just more AR Hocus Pocus...We gotta do something or else...

Remember when they said the turtles were all disappearing and going to China for food? How inhumane! That big lie was the foundation to ban the turtle hobby, state by state. Same text printed verbatim from state to state in newspapers. The only variables were localities and cited individuals.

That statement to me seems to be such a broad sweeping unprovable generality. Can't wait to see the data. Well, you know, Professors gotta publish. That's a fact.

That whole explanation sounds rather far fetched.

Shut down the turtles. Shut down the big snakes. Shut down the frogs. Shut down the lizards. Shut down all snakes. Sound familiar?

I'm a skeptic.

jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

Replies (8)

jjenkins May 16, 2010 09:35 PM

"They are going extinct in the wild, so don't breed them in captivity!" because, um, that makes a lot of sense. And that is pretty much the logic of AR nuts and their "scientist" lackeys. What all of these idealists ignore is that herpeculturists are many species' last line of defense against extinction.
However, human-animal interaction is against the AR clowns eco-religion, and our contributions wouldn't fit very well with their smear campaign against us.

Calparsoni May 17, 2010 08:01 AM

They're studying them in Mexico??? They're probably eating the lizards into extinction. My most vivid memory of going to mexico was seeing skinned dogs in the window of a meat market. I had a lot of close friends in Texas who had relatives in Mexico and all of them would tell you to not eat in the restaraunts in Mexico because there was no telling what they were serving you.

jscrick May 17, 2010 08:16 AM

I always thought those "skinned dogs" were Cabrito.
But its a fact they do eat Iguana. Don't know to what extent.
jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

Calparsoni May 17, 2010 08:35 AM

I know what skinned goats look like I've eaten lots of cabritos in my life those were dogs. I will never forget that.

brhaco May 17, 2010 08:07 AM

Hard to say anything one way or another without looking at the results and methodology of the studies themselves.
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Jaykis May 18, 2010 03:40 PM

The title of this thread reminds me of an old Kingston Trio song.

jscrick May 18, 2010 05:32 PM

You're dating yourself. Must be one of those OLD Hippies.
jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

Jaykis May 18, 2010 05:43 PM

lol...and your point is?

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