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On the discovery channel they are showing “killer aliens”. The video provides graphic descriptions of pythons including the story of the burmese python that killed the child in Florida last year. Our opponents are using video to scare the public and it is very effective. I had hoped we would have put together a video that explained and showed our side of this debate. Images are far more powerful than words.
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Proud supporter of USARK and Kingsnake.com
“We stand together or we fall apart”

Kyle
www.royalvariations.com

"be safe, be happy and dont let anyone make you afraid"
David Coverdale

Hey Kyle,
I couldn't agree more.

If we do not share our side of the story in a more public way, the general public will never see the truth. If the general public does not see the truth...they will accept the propaganda that is being spoon-fed to them by the extremist organizations, as IF it were factual information.

We need an informational commercial that explains the FACTS and shows what we have at risk with this type of legislation/policy.

The loss of freedoms.
The Educational loss.
The negative economic implications.
The risk of the slippery slope...what will be banned next?

Youtube is great...but what we really need is a commercial that runs nationally on regular public television. We need the support of celebrities with both brains and influence. We need a voice that America trusts. And we need a television network that is willing to air it.
I cannot believe that we do not have the support of the most popular animal type television shows.
Reptiles stir a lot of ratings for these shows...you would think that they might like to have future shows with decent ratings as well.
It is as if the producers of these t.v. shows are feeding ravenously on their last meal.

Rather than being a plug for any particular organization...the commercials should be aimed at gaining the support of EVERY citizen who owns a pet or is involved with animals. It should be a goal to educate people about the FACTS and encourage them to support the rights they currently have, but which are now in jeopardy.
A commercial like this should be backed by EVERY organization involved in helping to protect our rights as caring owners of animals.

Harlin Wall - WALL TO WALL REPTILES!
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This video put out by Brian is pretty good even if its a little outdated now, but the basic information is good.

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PHLdyPayne

We need a professional, well thought-out, scientific approach that explains in detail documented facts about every aspect of this debate. We need the best of the best to represent us with clarity and a tone that is easy to understand and grasp. It is most important that we are represented in a way that is not any where close to a stereo type of who they think we are but instead a clarification of who we are. This representation must be filled with our own concerns about the few that are irresponsible and not deserving of anything less than prosecution for their irresponsible behavior which reflects so poorly on us as a reptile nation. We need to make it clear that we take what we do very seriously and we do not condone any behavior that is irresponsible. I mentioned several times last year a need for such a video and now with our backs against the wall, we must present our case in a visual manner. We live in a video world where everyone has video capabilities and we don’t have a DVD format video to share our side of the debate. Petitions are great, but images etch into the mind.
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Proud supporter of USARK and Kingsnake.com
“We stand together or we fall apart”

Kyle
www.royalvariations.com

"be safe, be happy and dont let anyone make you afraid"
David Coverdale

Jeff Corwin would be perfect. Everyone knows who he is...and he could pull it off.

Anyone know how to get a hold of him?
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"What is man without the beasts?
If all the beasts were gone,
men would die from great loneliness of spirit.
For what happens to the beasts,
soon happens to men.
All things are connected."

-Chief Seattle (Duwamish Tribe)

Nigel Marvin would be better.

What we need is somebody in the community who has the skills and knowledge to produce a quality video. Other volunteers who can compose a script, support production costs, reptile owners and celebrities to help support our cause. Basically we need PR people.

We need people who have good camera presence, access to decent video equipment and editing software (a college student in a Radio and Television broadcasting course would be a good choice to take care of editing etc). Once a video is created, it can be presented to the media, posted on Youtube etc. SHow the reptile owner's side of things, backed by scientific FACT instead of fiction.
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PHLdyPayne

I was watching Dirty Jobs today and imagined Mike Rowe doing a pro-snake show.
A lot of people know him, his voice and like him in general.

Though Nigel is definitely a good idea.

I just wish Steve Irwin was still alive. If he got wind of this bs he'd be all over it.
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"What is man without the beasts?
If all the beasts were gone,
men would die from great loneliness of spirit.
For what happens to the beasts,
soon happens to men.
All things are connected."

-Chief Seattle (Duwamish Tribe)

Burmese did not kill the child!!!!!

The FLA Coroner's office knew something was "up" and think it is likely that the child was shaken to death!!! My friend spoke to them. We only hear the exciting side of such stories. I still think the case is going. The snake did not do it and we know that story sounded very "wrong"!

There was another supposed child death where they bagged the parent for making it look like the snake suffocated the kid. The child was actually wrapped up in an inner tube and it was inflated until the child died. I know the guy that came in as the expert witness for the case. They even took the snake and forced it to bite the child over and over to make it look good. The injuries and death did not support the snake attack story.

Kevin

>>On the discovery channel they are showing “killer aliens”. The video provides graphic descriptions of pythons including the story of the burmese python that killed the child in Florida last year. Our opponents are using video to scare the public and it is very effective. I had hoped we would have put together a video that explained and showed our side of this debate. Images are far more powerful than words.
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>>Proud supporter of USARK and Kingsnake.com
>>“We stand together or we fall apart”
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>>Kyle
>>www.royalvariations.com
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>>"be safe, be happy and dont let anyone make you afraid"
>> David Coverdale
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Wow...
That is beyond messed up...
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"What is man without the beasts?
If all the beasts were gone,
men would die from great loneliness of spirit.
For what happens to the beasts,
soon happens to men.
All things are connected."

-Chief Seattle (Duwamish Tribe)

that is good to know. on the discovery channel they seemed unaware of those facts.
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Proud supporter of USARK and Kingsnake.com
“We stand together or we fall apart”

Kyle
www.royalvariations.com

"be safe, be happy and dont let anyone make you afraid"
David Coverdale

Man , thats some serious stuff to not come out to the public?????

Where did this info come from? Just a reliable source???

Another perfect example of why PEOPLE are the creatures that scare me, not snakes. Thanks for the info Kevin.

John