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yellow pines

larrymcc304 May 25, 2010 01:04 PM

When I was a boy (fourty some odd years ago) I used to find large yellow snakes pretty regularly. 5-6 feet long and never white or even close to white. I was told they were bull snakes and thats exactly what they looked like. Problem is they were not supposed to be here in northeast Ga. Guess they were northern pines but I've never saw one with white on it. Haven't saw one period in many years. Whats your take on this?

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DanielsDen May 25, 2010 07:31 PM

Yes Larry, you are correct...lemon yellow ones. They are still around, but they aren't seen that often. I have found five road kills in 30 years. The locals call them bull snakes...but they are pine snakes. Some of the most lemon ones I have seen came from the Clayton Georgia area. In what part of notheast Georgia do you live?

Dan

monklet May 25, 2010 07:37 PM

Boy, I'd sure like to see one of those...ANYONE GOT PICS?
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DanielsDen May 25, 2010 07:55 PM

I've got pictures...I just need to learn to post on this forum.

Dan

monklet May 25, 2010 08:30 PM

Maybe I can help.

For starters, you need to have your images hosted or on your own web accessible server.

Then when you are editing your post click the "Tools and Toys" link under the edit box for your post. This will bring up a popup window with instructions for including your images.

Hope that helps,
Brad

Hope to see some pics soon.
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mattcbiker May 26, 2010 09:04 AM

Just use photobucket or flickr. Don't get dooped into purchasing a premium account... they all have free accounts and they are all you'll need. Each picture has a link you can copy and paste for forum use. Very easy.
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Pine_Snake_Piney May 27, 2010 02:47 PM

Here are some pix of my yellow male for you.



And here is a big red phase, too.

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monklet May 27, 2010 04:07 PM

Thanks Brian! Awesome!!! Is that the coupling that produced my red X yellow pair? I think my female is taking after that yellow male.
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larrymcc304 Jun 06, 2010 01:50 PM

I live in Habersham county next door to Rabun (Clayton). It seems they require large spreads of undevloped.Probably because they don't seem very flyty. They just lay there and let idiots kill them. Sure would love to see one.

Phil Peak May 27, 2010 04:43 PM

Phil

monklet May 27, 2010 05:16 PM

...that's cheating.
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flavirufa May 27, 2010 06:08 PM

Phil,that yella animal is just outstanding!!!Have you produced any from that locale yet?Wow,very nice pine,the hobby awaits these beauties!Please keep everyone posted on your success with future breedings.Thanks,Alan

monklet May 27, 2010 06:21 PM

Better hope you live a loooonnngggg life
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Phil Peak May 27, 2010 08:26 PM

Thanks Alan. We produced a clutch of six last year which we held back as future breeding stock. We have another clutch of seven this year which we plan on donating to some of the zoos and educational facilities here in the state. Our immediate goal is to raise public awareness of these magnificent snakes and to promote conservation efforts with this species both here and elsewhere.

I do envision a day in the not too distant future in which we will be placing offspring into the hands of trusted friends that share our appreciation for Pituophis.

When I get a chance I plan on photographing some of the yearlings which are looking great.

Thanks again, Phil

monklet May 27, 2010 08:57 PM

Thanks for the update Phil. Glad to hear it's going well. Regardless of my sarcasm...I truly respect and support your's and Will's efforts.
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Phil Peak May 28, 2010 05:23 AM

Thanks Brad. We really appreciate the encouragement and kind words that we have received from our fellow Pit junkies over the years!

Phil

spankenstyne May 27, 2010 09:40 PM

Oh I was hoping Phil was going to post. LOVE those black & yellows.

donv May 28, 2010 08:48 AM

I have got to get a pair of those! Nicest looking pines in my opinion.

larrymcc304 Jun 06, 2010 01:55 PM

that is BEAUTIFUL!!

BBBruno May 29, 2010 09:16 AM

are usually (but not always) yellow in coloration; I have two now from two diferent locales and several others pickled (after dying natural deaths, of course) from other locales. There are some screaming white ones from there as well, the whitest I've ever seen! For what it's worth, I've scale counted many a Pine, and specimens I've worked with from New Jersey and Alabama are virtually identical in scalation, whereas those from points in between show more variation.

Bart

monklet May 31, 2010 04:22 PM

Interesting info Bart...thanks for that stuff...sure keeps ya wondering how to make sense of it all doesn't it.
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BBBruno May 31, 2010 06:48 PM

Not sure what you mean.

monklet Jun 01, 2010 11:42 PM

Oh, the bit about the northern and Alabama ones showing the color variation but like scale count and those in between with less variation in color but more in scale count etc. Sure keeps it interesting! ...hope that makes sense. Great to have someone with your broad range of experience contributing.
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