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Do Mex Baird's & TX Baird's intergrade?

CarlKoch May 27, 2010 09:47 PM

I had read somewhere that Mexican Baird's were being considered for separate species status. Has anyone done any research on variability in adult appearance within the same clutch? Do animals with Mexican characteristics show up in TX clutches?
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Carl

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dustyrhoads May 30, 2010 10:36 AM

>>I had read somewhere that Mexican Baird's were being considered for separate species status.

I'd be very interested to know where you read that. It must be very new??

>>Do animals with Mexican characteristics show up in TX clutches?

No.

CarlKoch May 31, 2010 06:46 AM

Thanks for the feedback, guys! Here's where I MISread the comment about the Mex being considered for separate species status. Obviously, it says "subspecies"...I just remembered it wrong.
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Carl

CarlKoch May 31, 2010 06:47 AM

Oops...here's the link.

http://www.suboc.com/other_snakes.html
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Carl

CarlKoch May 31, 2010 06:51 AM

Holy cats...I didn't even notice that was YOUR SITE!
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Carl

monklet May 31, 2010 04:24 PM

Gotta love that!
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dustyrhoads May 31, 2010 11:25 PM

>>Thanks for the feedback, guys! Here's where I MISread the comment about the Mex being considered for separate species status. Obviously, it says "subspecies"...I just remembered it wrong.
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>>Carl

LOL. Yeah, my web site doesn't say they're being *considered* for subspecies status (aka research with data in the works)...just that a few herp guys *think* they could be subspecies. Huge diff!

draybar May 30, 2010 12:08 PM

>>I had read somewhere that Mexican Baird's were being considered for separate species status. Has anyone done any research on variability in adult appearance within the same clutch? Do animals with Mexican characteristics show up in TX clutches?
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>>Carl

I haven't heard about the seperate classification either.
It seems the trend is going just the opposite direction these days. seems everything is being lumped together.
If territories cross, yes Texas and Mexican bairdis can intergrade.
By Mexicam characteristics, do you mean grey heads and more uniformly colored bodies? I don't know. It seems that most Texas specimens I've seen do have some color in the faces and the true Mexicam specimens I have seen, do not. But at the same time there are some people who believe the more colorful as opposed to gun-metal grey specimens may have Mexican in them.....
Are there extremely colorful Texans? yes. Are there more grey Mexicans? yes. Are there some Mexican/Texan crosses out there? yes.

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