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On Thursday June 3 2010 my 5th litter of boas was born. I was lucky enough to witness the entire birth from start to finish. She was uncomfortable all day and I knew we were getting close so I had my eye on her through out the day.

The litter was from a Reverse Stripe Panama male to a Stav Line Hypo female. When I purchased my pair of Reverse Stripes I was told they were a dominant gene. I really liked the Hypo Reverse Stripe Panama's and since they are all "centrals" I crossed the Panama to the Nic which are countries that border one another.

Anyways, here are some pictures.

Breedings on Jan 8, Jan 18 and Feb 10 2010. She was ovulating on Feb 10th.

This is the Reverse Stripe Panama (Father)

Mom giving birth.

The babies in the tub waiting to be rinsed off.

As you can see from the photo's not only are there 18 babies (10 Hypo's and 8 Normals) not a single one has even a hint of striping. I guess they aren't dominant!

The Hypo's

The Normals

And a few individual pics. Even though none are striped some have a reduced pattern. I really like the Hypo's!

Some of the normals

At any rate I'm just happy to have living babies. I'm sure the reverse stripes are genetic as quite a few have come in. I can say though they are not dominant so the only thing they can be in recessive.

Corey

Congratulations on the C.A. litter !

There's one little country called Costa Rica that's in between the two

Some pretty normal anf hypo babies and all are healthy,
that's the best part !

. . . Lar M
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LOL! Sorry I wasn't thinking. I've been to both Costa Rica and Panama. It was a late night last night.......

Corey

Sadly there are many who sell their reverse stripe Boas as co-dominant because one bloodline has been proven to be such. I have personally bred five different bloodlines of reverse stripes and two have proven genetic. Three have not including sibling breedings of two with nice reverse stripes. They came from a litter with four reverse stripe babies in the litter and yet reverse x reverse didn't make a single reverse stripe baby. Clearly not genetic in any way in that instance.

Because of the fact that people know of one bloodline that is genetic, some assume all are co-dominant. Some knowing full well that theirs is not proven in any way still attach the co-dom label on them for marketing sake.

I have never ever heard of anyone that has proven or claimed any bloodline of reverse stripes to be simple recessive. As a proven entity, that does not exist. Doesn't mean it isn't possible. It could be but so far it is unknown.

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Jeff Ronne Sr
The Boaphile
Director USARK

Originator of Boaphile Plastics
The Boaphile Boa Site

Jeff,

That's good to know......

I guess I'll find out next year for certain when I breed RS x RS....

Corey

Good luck with them!
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Jeff Ronne Sr
The Boaphile
Director USARK

Originator of Boaphile Plastics
The Boaphile Boa Site

Congrats, bro. I'm glad to see you still got boas, did you get rid of all your Jamaican boas? It was a long time ago but I remember you working with them. I hope all is well and wanted to say hi. Next time your trekking down south and need a translator look me up, im cheap

Hey Corey, we have a 1.3 group of full reverse striped hypo Panamanians and when they were bred in 2008 they did produce reverse stripes. However, it did not come out in a dominant fashion as you would think that two dominant reverse stripes together would merit all reverse stripes. Well, there were quite a few but not all by any means. We are waiting on two of the three females which are gestating right now, that were both bred by unrelated males. One of which was a CA motley pos het T+ and the other a WC new blood black tailed type 2 anery. We will let you know what comes of the litters and the reverse striping just for kicks. The third full reverse stripe hypo female is just getting ready to meet her brother.

What year is your male? Any chance he is an 05'? Our 4 are 05's originally imported by Matt Lerer and showcased in John Berry's Designer Morphs Vol. 1. Now the adult pics will be in Vol. 2 but with us as the new owners. Reverse striping is pretty goofy how it comes out. You keep seeing people trying to produce reverse stripes fail, and others not trying to produce them, produce them by the bunches. Funny stuff and all part of breeding boas.
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