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Hi,

I dewormed my beardeds with Panacur. Now after treating with that they don`t eat anymore or not so much as before.
Is that normal?

Thanks, Kevin

You need to use some probiotics with them. Acidophiliz is one of the probiotics but there are many others also.

Here are some more probiotic products on my friend Tracie's site:

http://www.bug-de-lite.com/Products Page.html

You most likely killed off all the naturally occurring intestinal gut flora and bacteria.

Be patient and use probiotics and the animals appetite will be restored.

Have you done a fecal to ensure their are no more coccidia or worms in the poo now?

Yeah I have done it. No more worms, coccidia etc.
The only problem now is that the dragons don`t eat anymore.

Thanks, Kevin

Well how long did you use the panacur for and how long were the parasites infecting the animal for?

What I mean by this is... was the animal showing outward signs of infestation such as runny wet bloody poo?

How did you catch the infestation?

How long did you treat using the panacure and what stength per ml dosage?

Panacur/suspension ratio? What weight is your dragon being treated? What weight was it before treatment?

Is it loosing weight?

Are you using a probiotic?

Give me some more info on it.

The recommended dosage for panacur is typically 7 days but I have read less time is needed. I have also read some bad reports on panacur.

What was the issue? Worms?

I gave the panacur for 4days. And yes the main reason was because of worms (Nematods).
They don`t show problems on eating or so before I used it. I used it on baby beardeds around 24grams.
Now I have started to give them Acidophiliz.

Thanks, Kevin

I am not too certain about the ramifications using panacur on such small dragons. I would not treat animals with any potentially harsh medication until they are over a 100 grams.

Their systems are not stable enough for this yet. Hopefully you were using a very small dosage ratio.

I would do a fluid flush with a small amount of olive oil. Use a syringe and flush them with water. Do this for 2 or three days. You could offer them water but I doubt they will take much.

Just gingerly force in the syringe and flush with water. Like a said do this for 2 days. Continue to offer them veggies and insects.

Get them flushed ASAP to reduce toxicity levels.

Keep us posted.

In the future I would not treat such small animals with medication unless it's absolutely needed.

Where do you come up with this stuff? I certainly would not flush them with olive oil.

To the poster, you can try the probiotic but that is more important when using Albon. I generally have no side effects when using Panacur. But, I generally only give 2 doses 2 weeks apart. What was the dosage and frequency you used?

Otherwise, I would just continue to offer food and water, most likely it should pass.

I didnt say flush them with olive oil... lol. Flush them with water and add a small amount of olive oil to the water or do a small amount separately.

Two or three eyedropper drops normally is sufficient.

I have done it with my dragons... a drop or two it loosens things up and gets their system flushing through.

I get this stuff from other reputable breeders.

thanks

Oil would only help with constipation, it won't do anything for appetite. The probiotic will be far more useful to help re-establish beneficial gut flora.

Providing plenty of water helps prevent dehydration, something which can result from deworming and antibiotics.

One thing to try is offer small silkworms and butterworms, or phoenix worms, to catch the dragon's attention and it may prompt him to eat. Also, these soft bodied insect larvae are easy to digest as well.
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PHLdyPayne

Albon is the treatment of choice for Coccidia. And Coccidia is very difficult to get rid of. It requires treatment every 2 days for up to 8 weeks sometimes. That's with snakes. Not sure about dragons as I don't have any.
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Not sure but the digestive systems with snakes and BDs is much different.

One is an insectivore/herbivore the other is a carnivore.

A snake digests and eats about once every two weeks.

The dragons eat every day and poop every day.

The greens cleanse their systems.

I have started treating with albon for coccidia. Albon is a sulfur drug and the dragons must be kept hydrated.

I will keep you posted on the treatment and results.

thanks

Acidophiliz is good to use after treatment, and make sure your dragon does get plenty of liquid.
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PHLdyPayne