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Thred below re: Central America

DeanAlessandrini Sep 23, 2003 07:35 AM

Ok Guys, there are only 7 contenents, and Central America ain't one of them.

If you want to be technical, ALL of "central america" is in the continent of North America.

The region of North America South of the US (which is Mexico all the way through the southern tip of Panama) is what is often referred to as the region of Central America...but it's ALL North America.

So...in that region you have erebennus, rubidus, orizabensis, unicolor and melanurus,(melanurus range extends well into S. America)

Rubidus is very very rarely, and orizabensis NEVER...available to hobbiests.

As for the size of yellow-tails...they are the largest sub of Drymarchon on average. Some of my adults have well-surpassed 8', and I really have not had any for a very long time. They are know to exceed 10'

This is the first year I've produced them...but I've produced couperi for many years and erebennus for a few...so based on the growth rate of these, I'd expect them to hit at least the 4' mark by the first year, then probably 5.5' - 6' after the 2-2-5 years...and up from there.

Dry's don't grow like a corn snake, they take about 3 years to be ready to breed.

Hope this helps, Dean

Replies (11)

ecarinata Sep 23, 2003 09:47 AM

Dean are you saying your Texans and Easterns are at the 4' mark at 12 months or are you extrapolating 1 year size vs. max size for Easterns vs YT's?

E.carinata(Mike McCoy)

DeanAlessandrini Sep 23, 2003 10:27 AM

That's what my easterns and Texans typically are.

Yt's would likely be at least that big...probably a little bigger...

They start out a little smaller than the Tx and easterns do (from smaller eggs)so it may them a while to catch up...

They are just really not a snake to push to hard to grow fast though. None of the dry's are.

Caribbeanboids Sep 23, 2003 12:29 PM

Dean,
Thanks a lot for the very helpful information.
CB

Ecarinata Sep 23, 2003 01:14 PM

Are everyone's Easterns 48" at 12 months? I thought mine were doing great and I don't think they are anywhere near 48" at nearly 14 months

oldherper Sep 23, 2003 01:40 PM

Measure them...it's deceptive sometimes trying to judge the length of a snake.

DeanAlessandrini Sep 23, 2003 01:59 PM

People tend to seriously underestimate size until they actually stretch them out and measure them.

A 4' indigo is not a very big snake at all.

dan felice Sep 23, 2003 03:40 PM

mike, my two 14 month olds are at least 4 foot.....probably closer to 5'. they would eat a shoe if offered......

ecarinata Sep 23, 2003 06:21 PM

Dan,
Mine are lunatics too. I've probably been too careful since the time I let the male eat as much as he wanted in a sitting and he regurged half the meal.
The BT's just ate for the fourth time since they arrived(2 ft pinks this time). I see what you mean about the male. He was in the hide when he arrived so I just put the whole thing in his new container. I took a real good look at him this weekend and he does have the potential to be a monster. With his size and appetite. Yikes!

bobl Sep 23, 2003 03:50 PM

I have 02 YTs that are all of 3 feet and some 02's that are slightly longer.
These snakes are fed a hefty meal once a week.
If I fed them twice a week I'm sure they be closer to 4 feet long...... and I'd be cleaning a lot more YT sh!t!

ecarinata Sep 23, 2003 06:06 PM

Ok. I just did a reasonably accurate measurement on my male. 40" More than I would have sworn to a couple of hours ago. I know the female is a shade smaller.

Using advice I received on the forum I've feed them twice a week but not so much that they look like they just ate (i.e. no noticeable bulge). Probably time to bumped them up another mouse per serving. Thanks guys

Eric East Sep 23, 2003 09:37 PM

My o2 female is just under 3ft.

Eric

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