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Find of a life time

camposey Jun 18, 2010 08:22 AM

on our way out to west texas we came across this on the raod about 1:00A.M. it is a T- carmel albino desertking
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Jlassiter Jun 18, 2010 10:13 AM

>>on our way out to west texas we came across this on the raod about 1:00A.M. it is a T- carmel albino desertking

That is awesome!!!
Is it a male or female?
I've seen two lavenders but this one looks different......Probably because it is the real deal.....LOL

Congrats......

BTW....

If you don't want it you could pack it up and send it my way....
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Boneyard Jun 18, 2010 10:48 AM

Looks a little dark for T- but still totally KICK ASS!!!
Awesome find!!
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a153fish Jun 18, 2010 11:54 AM

Beautiful snake, but are you sure it's T-neg? It looks Lavander to me. Great find, you must be on a cloud right now!
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camposey Jun 18, 2010 12:04 PM

it is a male and the pictures make it look a lot darker. but we had it checked out by the barker's and they comfirmed it

Boneyard Jun 18, 2010 02:26 PM

With boas and pythons caramel albinos are T not T-. Caramel albino is not usually used for kings they are most ofter called lavender or T . From the pics you posted I would say it is a T , caramel albino, or lavender which ever you prefer to call it. I'm not an expert, its just my opinion.

Karl
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Boneyard Jun 18, 2010 02:27 PM

Somehow the plus got removed. It should read T positive not T negative.
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Jlassiter Jun 18, 2010 03:11 PM

>>With boas and pythons caramel albinos are T not T-. Caramel albino is not usually used for kings they are most ofter called lavender or T . From the pics you posted I would say it is a T , caramel albino, or lavender which ever you prefer to call it. I'm not an expert

I agree Karl....

Lavender - T pos.........
Awesome too.....
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John Lassiter
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eyeball30 Jun 18, 2010 04:14 PM

I agree, I say T pos. No matter what the case I would love a pair of hets if youre gonna breed him.
Great Find and Good Luck, Eyeball

Jeff Schofield Jun 18, 2010 04:28 PM

I think lavender is usually representative of T Posetive, though this can not be assumed pending testing. Does a close up reveal differences between the white and yellow??

pyromaniac Jun 18, 2010 08:28 PM

I looked at the photos of this snake (splendid animal, by the way!) and the proportions of the pictures looked off, so I resized it and got this:

which looks more natural than like how pics turn out when the forum site automatically resizes them. But he still looks very thin. I hope you took him home and started feeding him plenty of mice!

Jlassiter Jun 18, 2010 08:37 PM

>>on our way out to west texas we came across this on the raod about 1:00A.M. it is a T- carmel albino desertking

What county in West Texas did you find this Splendida in?

BTW....I wouldn't brag about taking a snake from a ROW in Texas on this forum.......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
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Jlassiter Jun 18, 2010 08:43 PM

>>>>on our way out to west texas we came across this on the raod about 1:00A.M. it is a T- carmel albino desertking
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>>What county in West Texas did you find this Splendida in?
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>>BTW....I wouldn't brag about taking a snake from a ROW in Texas on this forum.......

I just re read.....you stated..."on your way TO West Texas" you found this on the road.....So....What state did you find it in? Arizona?
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

DMong Jun 19, 2010 11:45 AM

Congratulations on a very unique find!

Yes, that is definitely what is known in the colubrid hobby as a "T-positive"(aka lavender albino). With this mutation, the melanin is absent, but the melanocyte still contains tyrosinase (a melanin pre-cursor)within the pigment cell, giving it a lavender/purple hue.

That animal also looks to have slightly piebald sides with no pigment at all in it's lower ventrolateral area as well.

VERY cool indeed!

~Doug
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Jlassiter Jun 19, 2010 03:28 PM

>>That animal also looks to have slightly piebald sides with no pigment at all in it's lower ventrolateral area

I don't think it has a pied side.......
Many splendida have white on the sides and yellow near the dorsum.....

Glad to see you back "online" Doug.....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

DMong Jun 19, 2010 06:47 PM

Yeah, I suppose that could very well be the case there John. That one's white is just a bit higher up and a bit more defined than many others I guess.

BTW, thanks man, it feels good to get back online again..LOL!

~Doug
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JKruse Jun 19, 2010 07:32 PM

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Bluerosy Jun 21, 2010 12:37 PM

That is a T positive and not a T negative albino.

Awesome find of a lifetime!

I hope you get him plugged into many females and some other recessive traits to create double hets.
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Fleck Jun 21, 2010 03:43 PM

Amazing find and very sharp looking king

Don Shores Jun 21, 2010 10:17 PM

That is one nice find. Since I do most of the splendida morphs, I would really be interested in it if you were wanting to get rid of it. I had an original wild caught albino and that would make a great adition.

Jlassiter Jun 22, 2010 06:12 PM

>>That is one nice find. Since I do most of the splendida morphs, I would really be interested in it if you were wanting to get rid of it. I had an original wild caught albino and that would make a great adition.

Too late Don..... He already sent it to me.... Now how much for the amel......lol.

Just kidding....hehe
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John Lassiter
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