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Dinkage From The Dark Side

dwherp Jun 22, 2010 03:28 PM

It's been five years since we got the original female as a baby. These were the result of breeding her back to her son. From a clutch of seven, we got four of these crazy little stripers. They hatched yesterday - can't wait to see the colors after they've shed.

We've got another clutch coming from her sister (also aberrant looking) bred to the same male... should be interesting.

We wish you all the best this breeding season,
Dan
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Replies (33)

R.Mikkelsen Jun 22, 2010 03:40 PM

looks like you have something there Dan..BIG congrats.

Bombballz Jun 22, 2010 03:42 PM

Very Nice!!

mikebell Jun 22, 2010 03:50 PM

That is cool. Can we see a picture of the adults?

zactell Jun 22, 2010 03:55 PM

WOW.... Amazing looking babies.
Congrats to those =)
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jwoolard Jun 22, 2010 03:57 PM

Outstanding! I'd love to see the parents too.
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jason Jun 22, 2010 04:05 PM

Those are awesome! I think after the last few days it's safe to say that we are far from having seen it all when it comes to ball pythons. Congrats on those awesome babies!
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jsschrei Jun 22, 2010 04:15 PM

Those look great! I love the dark animals. Can we see mom?
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chongorojo Jun 22, 2010 04:21 PM

Np
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avdnco Jun 22, 2010 04:35 PM

That is definitely a wow!
Congrats!!!
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dwherp Jun 22, 2010 04:42 PM

As requested, here are the parents (male is on top). As you can see, they aren't all that crazy looking. The only thing that gave me confidence that it might be genetic, was the fact that many of the offspring from the first clutches from this female and her sister were "a bit off" pattern wise.

Thanks for all the positive feedback. I have a few combos in mind...

Dan
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dwherp Jun 22, 2010 04:45 PM

It will be a couple months, but I'll post some photos when her sister's eggs hatch.
Dan
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WALL2WALLREPTILE Jun 22, 2010 04:53 PM

Very Nice Dan!

Those have a real interesting Harlequin look to them.
Great looking snakes.
I hope to see more when the other clutch hatches.
Take care.

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Coldthumb Jun 22, 2010 09:22 PM

>>Very Nice Dan!
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>>Those have a real interesting Harlequin look to them.
>>Great looking snakes.
>>I hope to see more when the other clutch hatches.
>>Take care.
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>>Your friend,
>>Harlin Wall - WALL TO WALL REPTILES!
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>>970-255-9255

Yeah that's what i was thinking..Actual genetic harleys! I mean think of the numbers of harlequins that DIDN'T prove out for alot of folks,(hell,i'm one of them).

Huge congrats Dan!...,and best of luck on clutch two.
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jkobylka Jun 22, 2010 05:46 PM

Dan, You've done it again!

Justin
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lavenderalbino Jun 22, 2010 07:16 PM

Very cool little buggers! Looks like you have been working on this a while so I am sure the validation of your efforts is sweet. Best of luck with this. I really like these little "Darth Vaders"
Grant

Ben_Renick Jun 22, 2010 07:22 PM

Amazing looking project! Huge congrats!
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RoyalVariations Jun 22, 2010 08:25 PM

beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!!! love it. congrats, they are very, very, very nice.
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WALL2WALLREPTILE Jun 23, 2010 02:36 PM

Hey Dan,

Is there any possibility of getting some belly pics?
Thanks in advance.

Take care.

Harlin

jaymiller242 Jun 23, 2010 10:21 PM

Mr Dan, Those are excellent.. I Just wanted to tell you I think they look great and the Super Pastel I aquired from you through a friend is an excellent example of the snakes you put out. Thank you, Jay from Sunny AZ
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Albey Jun 22, 2010 04:59 PM

Congratulations Dan! Do you think it is a Co-Dom trait and the Stripers are the Super or is it Recessive and the Het’s have markers?
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dwherp Jun 22, 2010 05:59 PM

Hi Albey,

I'm reluctant to even speculate at this point. I want to wait to see what hatches out of the sister's clutch. She just had her pre-lay shed last week, so we're looking at another ten weeks or so.

What complicates this story further is the fact that the grandfather of these babies (the father's father) is a very cool aberrant striped snake as well. He was an African hatch. He doesn't look too much like these babies. His stripe is very uniform and clean, and he is over-all much more balanced and symmetrical looking. I paired him with the sisters hoping something might line up genetically (even though they really do not look alike). So although I think it's more likely that what we're seeing in these striped babies is the result of the moms genetics, there is the possibility that the grandfather may be contributing something as well.

I do have what feels like a four egg clutch coming from the Grandfather of these babies, bred to one of his daughters (a sibling to the father of the new stripers). So that may prove interesting as well. Man this stuff get confusing and convoluted fast... I'd be lost if I didn't keep good records

Hopefully the mystery will be solved as these next clutches hatch.

Take care,
Dan

EmberBall Jun 22, 2010 08:41 PM

Those are very cool, Dinking rocks.

Dave

brookside Jun 22, 2010 09:36 PM

Wicked Sweet! Congrats Dan!
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kingofspades Jun 22, 2010 10:18 PM

That is sweet...and gives me hope for my female dinker.
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alicecobb Jun 23, 2010 03:45 AM

Those are awesome Dan! I can't wait til the sister's clutch hatches . . . .
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Maki Jun 23, 2010 07:10 AM

Wow, Dan, congrats on producing such an awesome clutch after all that time and work! Sounds like the story is still unfolding, so please keep us updated. Awesome!

robyn@ProExotics Jun 23, 2010 12:37 PM

I am a big fan of this kind of striping, way to go Dan!
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paulbuckley Jun 23, 2010 01:38 PM

those are B.A.D.A.S.S.

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marshallvt Jun 23, 2010 03:11 PM

Really nice Dan. Big congradulations with that clutch. IS this part of the black lace project?

Marshall

dwherp Jun 23, 2010 04:27 PM

Hey Marshall,

No it's not part of the Black Lace project, however I'm hoping for some cool stuff from that one also. Do you have trouble sleeping this time of year too?
Dan

ohernz Jun 23, 2010 04:34 PM

WOW BEAUTIFUL BABIES!. Do you have a name planned for them if they prove out?
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marshallvt Jun 23, 2010 06:44 PM

Really nice Dan. Big congradulations with that clutch. IS this part of the black lace project?

EmberBall Jun 23, 2010 07:13 PM

Have you named em yet? The Super is fantastic man, the morphs are cool, but the Super.....

Dave

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