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That's one fat mole!
I heard you and Dave did well on hoggies??
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!
Yeah we had a GREAT day. And followed it up with a great day on the coast the next day. Think maybe that's a record!
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This one is special! Very nice do you have a website, lol?
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra
Probably the nicest examples I've seen.
Brad you do realize I've been patiently waiting about 5 years(!!!!!)for some of those purple ones right?? You are the man when it comes to cool stuff but share the wealth brotha! By the way, good to see you surface! Keep the pics comin!!!
Yeah I've given my snakes(and me!)a break. I haven't bred anything the past two years but plan to next year so that will be the year Lol!
That's a killer mole king!!
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Chris Jones
King of Kings Reptiles
http://www.kingofkingsreptiles.com/
"All the fancy names in the world will be of no help if you do not know the difference between chocolate pudding and pig poop." -Frank Retes
Nice, Brad. Am I mistaken or is the mole king the north american colubrid most likely to be acquired from the wild rather than from captive bred stock? (green rats come to mind, too).
Given how successful herpetoculture's been, how come moles aren't widely available by now? Is it more (lack of) demand not generating supply? You'd think any and every king would be desired and thus widely available.
Terry, I think mole kings are rare and secretive in BOTH nature and captive breeding circles. The prettier locales in particular(S.FL, N.FL, and E.NC) are quite rare, and the babies are difficult to work with much like Coastals and Gray bands. Add to that most of the guys breeding them are also breeding coastals and have only so much time to spend with difficult feeders. Maybe its another east coast bias, but I have NEVER seen anyone on the west coast with em. I have been waiting for offspring from this line for 6-7 years, and just got lucky to get my hands on N.FL locale(see pic)that I have been waiting for about 4 years to find. They just arent that common. My girl is nesting now, I'd like to see exactly what the demand will be shortly.

Yes it would appear to be represented well in the hobby by now when in fact it's exactly the opposite which is puzzling to say the least! The mole king complex deserves some respect!
You would expect to see more available and for some reason you just don't see lots of cb babies. I haven't bred any of mine in the past two years as I've been taking a bit of a break. Ted Thompson breeds a good number of nice locality moles every year. The babies can sometimes be a little stubborn but usually go to pinks with a little patience. The fact that they aren't everywhere certainly adds to their appeal!
...we're hoarders! We want them all to ourselves, Terry.
I do know several people who have some from me that do not offer them for sale to anyone.
Most clutch sizes are less than 10 as well. I might have only 15 or so panhandle ones this year but that's of my own doing.
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!
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