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Milking Montana - a conference of sorts

Sunherp Jun 25, 2010 02:08 PM

This post would have been up sooner, but I’ve been busy as hell. On top of that, we had a massive storm come through Billings last weekend, with a tornado(!!!) causing some major damage to parts of the city. Anyway, here it is and I hope you enjoy!

-Cole

Several weeks ago, Dell and I were graced by a visit from a couple of good friends and fellow milk-heads… Jeff Hardwick and Jose’ Ole’ (AKA “Prybar”) are always an absolute pleasure for Dell and I (and our families) to have around. Solid guys, hard herpers, and both are able to hold their own while drinking beer with the Montana Milk Maffia (after lots of practice, of course!). The guys had come to Billings, Montana from far away (one near Canada, the other near Mexico) for a week of herping, scholarly discussion, cigar smoking, and beer swilling. I sure hope they weren’t disappointed!

We herped much of the Southcentral and Southeastern portions of Montana with Pale Milksnakes (Lampropeltis triangulum multistrata) our major goal. Habitats in this part of the state are extremely varied, ranging from craggy mountain peaks at 13,000 feet above sea level, to pine and aspen forest, short-grass prairie, and semi-desert. What follows is a smattering of photos from our week of herping.

Our first day was grueling, and filled with insect bites, cactus thorns, and stinky dogs (dead things are apparently fun to roll in...). After several hours of hunting, we happened across a rancher who allowed us to access his property. The weather was cool, humid and raining on-and-off. It turned out to be better than we’d even expected!

Habitat

Prybar and Dell

Pituophis catenifer sayi

Lampropeltis triangulum multistrata

Trixie and Bob

The following few days we spent exploring a private holding to which only we have access. The place is huge, beautiful, and productive – man, I wish I owned it! We made some interesting discoveries, too!

Habitat

Lampropeltis triangulum multistrata

Crotalus viridis

Lampropeltis triangulum multistrata

Charina bottae

C. bottae and Prybar

The following day, we headed into some semi-desert country to try to find some of the most elusive milks I’ve ever hunted. The habitat is extensive, rough, and rugged.

Habitat

Lampropeltis triangulum multistrata with a belly full of Sceloporus graciosus

Deeply eroded and washed-out roads require the right type of vehicle!

Dusk can be an “interesting” time in this area – bears are common and mountain lions abundant. Unfortunately, we didn’t see any.

Jeff and I also made a few other trips, including one to Wyoming’s Bighorn Basin. The area is remarkably arid, and ribbons of green are seen following water sources.

Jeff, Dell, and I also spent a day hunting closer to Billings after Jose Ole had headed back to attend to his graduate studies.
It turned out to be a good choice, too! Not only did we have excellent weather, but we found some animals and were back in town in time to hit a local micro-brewery!

Heterodon nasicus

coming back to life

Alive!

Jeff and Dell examining it

And a parting shot of a milk from the end of the day
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Replies (21)

RG Jun 25, 2010 02:49 PM

Awesomeness...great photos and thanks for taking the time to post this stuff!

-Rusty

Sunherp Jun 27, 2010 12:09 PM

Glad you enjoyed it! I dig your field shots, too. Man, you really seem to get around!

-Cole

Dniles Jun 25, 2010 05:12 PM

Great work Cole. That was an excellent post. I love all the habitat shots. Looks like you guys had a great time out there and found some cool stuff.

Dave
DNS Reptiles

Sunherp Jun 27, 2010 12:17 PM

Thanks, man! We saw a lot of milks (and other stuff), but we certainly worked for it! Long days in the sun, rugged terrain, and heavy rocks can work a guy pretty hard!

-Cole

My compadres:
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snake_bit Jun 25, 2010 06:46 PM

Great post/pics.I like this one a lot.


I would have wanted to flip everyone of those rocks.

Did you forget to paste the full belly pale pic ?
I don't see it.

back in the 70s I stayed a night in Glacier Nat Park

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Doug L

Sunherp Jun 27, 2010 12:27 PM

Glad you liked the habitat shots, buddy! Everything was especially green and lush with all of the recent rain. I honestly didn't take any belly shots, but we noted that the animals we found ranged from having immaculate white bellies to having venters with extensive black markings.

Speaking of bellies, here's another shot of the little male with a belly full of Sceloporus.

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snake_bit Jun 27, 2010 02:24 PM

Yes thats the pic missing from your post. The text mentions it but I believe you forgot to paste it in with the others.
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"He's down in the basement staring at his snakes " My Wife

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Doug L

Sunherp Jun 28, 2010 09:09 AM

I see that the photo I intended to include in my post IS missing! Here it is:
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DMong Jun 25, 2010 08:43 PM

absolutely killer post there Cole!. That picturesque scenery you did such a fantastic job of conveying throughout the entire presentation is just outstanding!

I only ever see cool lookin expanses like that on old episodes of Bonanza for crissakes!..LMAO!

BTW,...maybe it WAS a good thing that a mountain lion didn't come join your herping festivities. It's a looong way for the "doc" to make a house-call on the couch at the Ponderosa!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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Sunherp Jun 27, 2010 12:33 PM

Glad to hear you enjoyed it! Montana is full of picturesque landscapes, no doubt about that. Here's a photo some exceptionally green looking habitat and a snake from there:

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DMong Jun 27, 2010 03:07 PM

Wow, Cole!........those are yet more nice examples of your photo work.

Sweet looking milk too bro!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

daneby Jun 25, 2010 08:54 PM

Cool post Cole! & cool finds! I especially like the rubber boa, what a great trip

Dan

Sunherp Jun 27, 2010 12:34 PM

You making it South at all this season?

-Cole

Joe_M Jun 25, 2010 09:00 PM

Very nice Cole! As I told Dell, this east coaster really needs to make it out west in the next couple of years.
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Joe

Sunherp Jun 27, 2010 12:37 PM

I couldn't agree more!

Beartooth Mountains, Southcentral Montana
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Jeff Hardwick Jun 26, 2010 08:24 PM

Hey, my back is finally working again after flipping every rock in 3 counties of 2 States on vertical hillsides!
Can't thank you enough, Cole, for having us over and showing us the area! You and Dell are the best ever!
-Jeff
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Let there be triangulum and lo, the milkhead was born.

Sunherp Jun 27, 2010 12:38 PM

You're welcome anytime. I mean that! It's always a pleasure to have you out. Post up some of your photos from the trip!
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jeff schofield Jun 26, 2010 11:31 PM

First, I had to count the milks, did you guys find 6 milks between the 4 of you for the week? Not bad, I've certainly done worse. Habitat shots are killer! But is 4 milkheads hunting together a "conference"?? LMAO. I know up there it can also be called a school district, a rally, or a basketball team. I'm a little more interested in the results of the "conference" than the hunt itself. Did you guys confer to the best microbrew? Light farts on fire? I mean if you want the "conference" to grow next year........Kidding of course. Great comraderie!

Sunherp Jun 27, 2010 12:50 PM

We saw plenty more than 6 milks, but we worked our arses off to see them! Perhaps Dell, Jeff, or Mr. Taste the Fiesta will post more of the individual animals.

As for the conference, I think any time more than 2 hard-core milkheads are together it's a conference! I mean, we're few and far between, aren't we?! We did confer that Angry Hank's has the best beer, though. It's a fact. A cold Dog Slobber or Street Fighter after a day of herping is magical...

-Cole

jeff schofield Jun 27, 2010 04:24 PM

Cole, First, I got NOTHING last time I hunted, even though I went at 8AM on a hot summers day! Pics?? Nothing even PG rated, but if you want some R-X rated material email and let me know. As I write you some chick is passed out half naked, thats how I ROLL. LMAO. J

Sunherp Jun 28, 2010 05:07 PM

I'm certainly not the compelled photographer those other guys are, but I managed to snag a few. Hell, why carry a camera with me for 12 hours a day if I'm not going to use it?!

Here are a couple of other animals from that week:

In blue

Not so blue

Tiny head cap
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