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Hello....

My guys are a little over 2 weeks old now. I've offered them FT pinkies last week and every 4 days since. Only one has eaten. The others show no interest. I've brained with no luck. I plan to keep tryin until they eat. Is there anything else other than scenting that might help?

Here are some pics. They are from a het albino to het albino and heir parents were beautiful animals. These seem to be more red. Any suggestion on how they should be priced for sale? Thanks...

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2.3 BCI
0.3 BCC
1.1 Eastern Indigo
1.3 Western Hognose (Het Albino)
2.2 Ball Python (Het Pied/Spider/Pastel)
1.1 Chondro (Mixer/Sorong)
1.1 Retic (Possible Het Calico)
1.1 Kimberly Monitor
1.3.6 Crested Gecko
0.1 Striped California Kingsnake "Skid Mark"
0.0.1 Florida Softshell Turtle
0.0.1 African Long Neck Turtle
1.0 Pitbull
1.2 Kids
0.1 Ball and Chain

I would start by getting them off of the paper towels and move them on to a proper bedding...

You may have to scent feed these little guys to get them started... If you do not want to try toad scent you can used tuna, salmon, and even hotdog... Those 3 scents seem to work often...

Those hogs are awesome by the way!!!

Thank you...Im backing off aspen or anything that they could ingest. What is the proper medium?

Thank you for the compliment and suggestions...Tuna will be the scent to use if they don't eat on their own by next week.
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2.3 BCI
0.3 BCC
1.1 Eastern Indigo
1.3 Western Hognose (Het Albino)
2.2 Ball Python (Het Pied/Spider/Pastel)
1.1 Chondro (Mixer/Sorong)
1.1 Retic (Possible Het Calico)
1.1 Kimberly Monitor
1.3.6 Crested Gecko
0.1 Striped California Kingsnake "Skid Mark"
0.0.1 Florida Softshell Turtle
0.0.1 African Long Neck Turtle
1.0 Pitbull
1.2 Kids
0.1 Ball and Chain

Im backing off aspen or anything that they could ingest. What is the proper medium?

There is no "proper" medium per se as different things work for different people but I've been using rabbit pellets for over 15 years with great success. For one, if they should ingest any of it, it's digestible so as not to cause any type of impaction. It clumps like cat litter when they defecate as well as absorbs so everything pretty much stays dry and it's easy to spot clean. Depending on where you buy it, it can be fairly cheap if you buy it from a feed store instead of a pet store.

A couple of things that are not conducive to using rabbit pellets is if you live in an extremely humid environment as rabbit pellets do have a tendency to develop mold when damp or when they get wet. They are also much heavier than a comparative tub full of wood shavings. They can also tend to be "dusty" (residual breakdown of pellets) especially at the bottom of the bag, so it's usually a good thing to use a strainer basket to remove the smaller particles.

But like I said, I've used them for kingsnakes and corn snakes for over 15 years with success and I've kept my Westerns on them for the last 4+ years successfully as well.
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Troy Rexroth
Rextiles

The "proper medium" is aspen-most breeders use it, and have been using it for years (sometimes for decades) without incident. Carefresh and other "recycled newspaper" type beddings will also work.
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Brad Chambers
WWW.HCU-TX.ORG

Breeder of:
Green Tree Pythons
Jungle Carpet Pythons
Pastel, Pinstripe, FIRE, Piebald, Clown, Lavender Albino, Leucistic, and Spider Ball Pythons
Striped Colombian Boa Constrictors
Kenyan, Rufescens, and Conicus Sand Boas
Red Phase Western Hognose Snakes
Spider Western Hognose Snakes
Albino Western Hognose Snakes
Locality Trans-Pecos Mexican Hognose Snakes
Southern Hognose Snakes
Eastern Hognose Snakes
Tricolor Hognose Snakes
Hypo Checkered Garter Snakes
Eastern Blackneck Garter Snakes
Stillwater Hypo Bullsnakes
Patternless Bullsnakes
S. GA Eastern Kingsnakes
Locality Desert Kingsnakes
Albino Desert Kingsnakes
Hypo Desert Kingsnakes
Mexican Black Kingsnakes
Desert Phase, Striped Desert, Newport, and Coastal California Kingsnakes
Locality Mexican Milksnakes
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Tangerine Mexican Milksnakes
Locality Alterna
Abbott Okeetee Cornsnakes
Mexican Baird's Ratsnakes
Cape Housesnakes
Tangerine Albino African Fat -Tailed Geckos
Locality Spotted Turtles

With my last 14 hatchling all of them start eating after 1 week. More than half start eating after 4 days after hatch.

My tips:

- give them bending, so they can bury in it.
- if You are keep them in rack systems, make boxes less transparent. If they wouldn`t see You they would not stress. If boxes is too big it is not good. They MUST feel save, this is the most important issue.

With this conditions, more than half of my hatchlings eats without scenting.

- last, for this who will not eat normal pinky - deep pinky in tuna fish out of can. Leave pinky for a night. Aster 3-4 meals with scenting try pinky without scenting.

My hatchlings, after 2 weeks takes normal pinkys from tweezers.

Here You have photos from feeding:

www.flickr.com/photos/hognoselimited/sets/72157623986608714/

Best regards
Grzegorz

HOGNOSE BREEDERS - join us !

The first observation: Those babies are being kept too humid. Those paper towels look wet. Keep them dry, use a very small water dish only partially full.

The second is this: paper towels are fine to use, but make sure you layer it so they can hide.

I offer every 4 days and if after 4 offerings they do not eat, I whip out the toad scenting, and it seems to always work. Tuna and salmon work for people as well, but nothing for me has compared to toad for the problem feeders.

I think the same about your observations.
We keep our hatchlings the way you describe and they doin fine

When they do not start to feed after 4 tryes, we remove the water. This last 5-7 days. Than remove the paper towel for feeding also.
Put the f/t pinky in the box and drop some fresh water on the head of the pinky.
This works well for us

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Greetings from Berlin
Stefan & Raimo

Reptiles-Breeding-Enterprise.com

First I would like to say "Wow!" What a great group of people on this site! Thank you everyone.

I will take everyone's advice and will post results in a few days.

Thanks again!!

Kenny
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2.3 BCI
0.3 BCC
1.1 Eastern Indigo
1.3 Western Hognose (Het Albino)
2.2 Ball Python (Het Pied/Spider/Pastel)
1.1 Chondro (Mixer/Sorong)
1.1 Retic (Possible Het Calico)
1.1 Kimberly Monitor
1.3.6 Crested Gecko
0.1 Striped California Kingsnake "Skid Mark"
0.0.1 Florida Softshell Turtle
0.0.1 African Long Neck Turtle
1.0 Pitbull
1.2 Kids
0.1 Ball and Chain

I would try live before scenting,90% of my babies will feed on live after about ten days out of the egg.Hope this helps

Nice looking hogs

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Brent Bumgardner
bwbumgardner@aol.com
703.431.1776
Superconda Website

Success...all but one ate right away. Used the tuna scenting. Thanks again to everyone!!

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2.3 BCI
0.3 BCC
1.1 Eastern Indigo
1.3.4 Western Hognose (Het Albino)
2.2 Ball Python (Het Pied/Spider/Pastel)
1.1 Chondro (Mixer/Sorong)
1.1 Retic (Possible Het Calico)
1.1 Kimberly Monitor
1.3.7 Crested Gecko
0.1 Striped California Kingsnake "Skid Mark"
0.0.1 Florida Softshell Turtle
0.0.1 African Long Neck Turtle
1.0 Pitbull
1.2 Kids
0.1 Ball and Chain