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Haven't posted on here in a long time, but I do enjoy this forum and thought it was about time to contribute. This season I bred an 08 hypo het sunglow motley male to an 06 albino motley female and this little girl popped up. The litter was small and there were no red devils, but there was this. Just wondered if anyone has seen anything like it? I have not and thought she was pretty cool and worth sharing.

THAT IS CRAZY LOOKING!!! WHAT WAS THE BREEDING?

Duh, you just posted the breeding, I had to pick up my jaw!

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Whoa... Thats crazy.
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Richard Ceniceros

It appears that animal may have the same thing going on that we have seen with the other Calico or Paradox animals many of us have seen in other Sunglow litters. Fortunately for you, yours was a Motley too! Very cool Boa! Those Eyes are Intense!

Take Care,
Brandon Weik
Summit Reptiles.com

That is the coolest thing produced in 2010 that I've seen!
I wonder if it's genentic.

Wow that is awesome! I hope it's reproduceable cause I think it's bad ass...
Amazing what things seem to be popping out in the various Motley breedings.

Thanks for sharing!!

Alex
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Alex Barreiro
www.BoaRepublic.com

Looks Like $$$$$$$$$$$$$ to me! Nice job
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Marc Duhon
Lafayette, Louisiana
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Very cool! I don't think it's a Motley but it is incredible! That pattern is crisp and defined unlike a Motley pattern. It also appears to be Anery. Was it a runty baby or did it have a large external yolk sack attached when it was born? I wish it were mine!
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Jeff Ronne Sr
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Don't you think it might be a Hypo Motley? That was my first impression. It seems even the Hypo or Sunglow Calico/Paradox snakes that people have produced have the black flecking or blotching on them.

Brandon Weik
Summit Reptiles.com

Doesn't it have to be a motley, since it was a motley x motley breeding? I could be wrong, let me know if I am! lol.

Truly amazing animal none the less!!
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Rachel Squier
"The more we live by our intellect, the less we understand the meaning of life." -Leo Tolstoy

No they would not all be Motley, in theory 75% of the litter should be Motley with 25% being Supers. Only when you breed a Super to something do you get all Motley's or any Co-Dom trait for that matter.

Take Care,
Brandon Weik
Summit Reptiles.com

Ah ok thanks. What I was actually getting at is it's definitely not a normal. When I said it has to be a motley, I meant motley or super motley. Either way, it's a motley lol. Sorry I wasn't very clear.
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Rachel Squier
"The more we live by our intellect, the less we understand the meaning of life." -Leo Tolstoy

Hypo Mot x Mot breeding . . .

Hypo mots only throw either Hypos or Motleys . Since its not a Hypo , it has to either be an abberant Motley, or abberant Super Motley. . . . . or possibly another fluke in a Motley breeding. Since Super Motleys sometimes come from only one Motley parent, maybe a normal squeaked out of a Hypo Motley breeding . The tail does look like it has the same darkened soft tones of the Motleys though - even though its pattern is messed up. ------------- Very cool
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Snake room janitor

This was a small litter, they did have external yoke sacks, but were average in size. The litter consisted of 2 super motleys, 3 hypo motleys, 1 sunglow motley, 1 albino motley, this odd one, and 4 slugs. This is the only survivor. One of the supers was pretty strong as well, but didn't make it.

There is no way this is anery, too much red in the pattern. The reason I suspect it to be an aberrant motley is the crisp pattern, solid colored head and eyes, and the increased color on the bottom of the tail. Other than that who knows what the heck is going on. Time will tell if it is genetic, but I have no intentions on proving it out.

That's a crazy looking Motley !

The head says Motley to me

. . . Lar M
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Boas By Klevitz

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With all the weird things going on with super motley litters maybe this what a super motley should look like. Or maybe its a paradox super motley. The head on that is insane.
NICE!!!!

The eyes on that thing are amazing, I hope it proves to be genetic
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Zack Greens Reptiles

I don't know if it's a motley or some aberration of a super motley! But it's way cooler than any motley I've seen!!!

Cool Stuff!!!!

Al Brown/Brown's Boas
www.BrownsBoas.biz

>>Haven't posted on here in a long time, but I do enjoy this forum and thought it was about time to contribute. This season I bred an 08 hypo het sunglow motley male to an 06 albino motley female and this little girl popped up. The litter was small and there were no red devils, but there was this. Just wondered if anyone has seen anything like it? I have not and thought she was pretty cool and worth sharing.
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Monty Montalbo

it's freakin' awesome is what it is!
lol

That baby is pretty wicked looking. To my untrained eye, I'd say it's a motley, but what do I know. Such a crazy funky pattern, especially for not being a hypo. What else did you get in the litter? Any hypo motleys? Sunglow motleys?

Thanks for sharing this beautiful eye-candy, I sure hope you continue to post updated pics.
-April
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'There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."' -Rainshadow

congrats and thanks for sharing
I'm more interested in the litter..hypo motley het albino to a albino motley female correct?
i want to see..please share the litter pics,thank youi
i promise to show you something that might interest you...in this thread.

The litter consisted of 2 super motleys, 3 hypo motleys, 1 sunglow motley, 1 albino motley, this odd one, and 4 slugs. It was a hypo het albino motley male bred to an albino motley female. I have pictures of the babies, but they are not pretty.

Did you produce something similar?

thanks for the litter results..I thought you should have produced a sgmotley with the dam and sire in your litter.
i produced this guy this season..

thanks for sharing again

Cheers!

That is ONE evil, wicked looking boa. Even it's head looks
unique. It would be tremendous if you could make more like that
one.

You need a new, catchy moniker for it.

That is possibly one of the best new morphs I have seen this year congratulations. Don't sell it or the parents and prove it out to be a new morph.

Take care
Tom
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McCarthyBoas.com

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm interesting phenomenal omg kick "beep" wholy "beep" these are words that come to my mind looking at that awesome snake Ill let you fill in the beeps lol but you get the idea awesome strictly a cut above

Ray
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2 triple het sharps m/f who are the ones who started this mess with me(joking)
1 motley with attitude awesome girl
1 sharp anery albino f awesome girl
1 ghost f
1 awesome jungle het anery
hmmmmmm wonder what im up to lmao and i owe it all to my friends thanks to Reptile Shop Jeff Ronne and Albert
1 fridge with beer in it who's coming over lol

SO COOL!
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Jessica Gibbs
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What do the supers look like? Any albino Super Mots?? Any white devils.. What a min, wouldnt a white devil be an angle??? lol

Not sure what the heck to say about her other than hang on to her because she looks pretty damn special. Maybe a new morph may have just popped up again this year. Not trying to jump the gun but that thing looks so unique that you may just have something extremely special there. Too bad it wasn't a male so you could find out sooner. Did you hit on any albino or sunglow supers?
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Correct me if I'm wrong but to the best of my knowledge a sunglow or even a hypo super motley is not possible. I don't believe an individual offspring can inherit both motley and hypo genes from one single parent. So any combination of super mot and hypo can't be done, or at least hasn't been done yet.

>>Correct me if I'm wrong but to the best of my knowledge a sunglow or even a hypo super motley is not possible. I don't believe an individual offspring can inherit both motley and hypo genes from one single parent. So any combination of super mot and hypo can't be done, or at least hasn't been done yet.

What about if you bred a hypo motley to a super? Motley to super would be a half litter of hypo mots and a half litter of hypos, I wonder if you would have a chance of producing super hypo mots that way or if you would just get a half litter of hypo mots and a half litter of supers. You wouldn't think it would be that cut and dry just from adding the motley gene. You would think that some would hypo mots and some super hypo mots. Forget the super thing I am not referring to that at all. Just wondering.
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I was looking at her head again and even though she is not a hypo it looks very similar to my super hypo reduced pattern girl. Kind of Panamanian looking head. What do you think?

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I read lots of posts and rarely comment. I know I've already commented on this one but I can't stop checking her out. She's worth a double. WoW. Nice snake Dean! How's 50k sound? lol.

I really like that one. Can't say that I've ever seen one like that before. Congrats!

Amie

Cool pattern. I love that last pic taken from above. Really shows how crazy that pattern is. Congrats on such an interesting baby.

Jay