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I have a "pair" that came from a friend, through the internet I was told were Mark Bell ? line. ANYWAY they are 03s and half the size of the other rats I got at the same time and similar sizes. I wanna sit, measure and photo document but got a bad mystery illness so that will wait til I can be more energetic. Til then, I am curious if anyone with experience with some of the hypos has noticed a slower growth or smaller size? I have the male getting more size on him finally. He also shows a white saddle pattern over the orange. He is catching up to the others that I know are 6 ft anyway. The female is a truer orange but a third smaller. I am kinda hep to breed them but obviously want more size on her especially. She is taking mice still and not huge ones. I have thought of going on to rat pups and seeing if I could push her growth but not sure that would really work. She is a willing eater and healthy otherwise. Maybe I am just impatient.

My 'ugly' greenish rats are huge (and mean) Though they are also maturing with a rusty background color that is kinda neat. I have two females I keep but don't really know what I want to do with. I lost the male to a bad reaction to flagyl....same with my whitesided everglades female. So my ratsnakes include

1.0 whitesided everglades
1.0 normal everglades
1.1 hypo everglades
0.2 greenish
1.0 albino yellow
0.1 yellow

Would you look for a male greenish for those girls? They are Dwight Good's line. They coulda been bred two years ago easy but I haven't had time or the male I wanted. I am hoping to have this settled for next breeding season and am open to ideas.
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Sonya

I'm not mean. You're just a sissy.
Happy Bunny

>>I have a "pair" that came from a friend, through the internet I was told were Mark Bell ? line. ANYWAY they are 03s and half the size of the other rats I got at the same time and similar sizes. I wanna sit, measure and photo document but got a bad mystery illness so that will wait til I can be more energetic. Til then, I am curious if anyone with experience with some of the hypos has noticed a slower growth or smaller size? I have the male getting more size on him finally. He also shows a white saddle pattern over the orange. He is catching up to the others that I know are 6 ft anyway. The female is a truer orange but a third smaller. I am kinda hep to breed them but obviously want more size on her especially. She is taking mice still and not huge ones. I have thought of going on to rat pups and seeing if I could push her growth but not sure that would really work. She is a willing eater and healthy otherwise. Maybe I am just impatient.
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>>My 'ugly' greenish rats are huge (and mean) Though they are also maturing with a rusty background color that is kinda neat. I have two females I keep but don't really know what I want to do with. I lost the male to a bad reaction to flagyl....same with my whitesided everglades female. So my ratsnakes include
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>>1.0 whitesided everglades
>>1.0 normal everglades
>>1.1 hypo everglades
>>0.2 greenish
>>1.0 albino yellow
>>0.1 yellow
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>>Would you look for a male greenish for those girls? They are Dwight Good's line. They coulda been bred two years ago easy but I haven't had time or the male I wanted. I am hoping to have this settled for next breeding season and am open to ideas.
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>>Sonya
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>>I'm not mean. You're just a sissy.
>>Happy Bunny

some snakes just don't grow as large as others...if the everglades are 03's I don't think you need to worry about breeding the female. Seven years old I don't think you need to worry about pushing her size, she's an adult everglades....let her breed.
I have a 32 inch snow corn that has bred four seasons in a row, averages 14 eggs a season...not high numbers but she's just a small snake. Eats same as the others. Some stay small.

greenish rat is a blak/yellow right? I guess if it was me I'd try to find a male greenish to keep the mix. But because they are mixes already You could breed them to the albino yellow. You would just end up with hatchling "greenish" rats with a higher pecentage of yellow.
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"Resistance is futile"
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I just hatched a brood of 7 Black/Glades hybrids from an accidental mating. I'm assuming they'll turn out something like Greenish and muddy but who knows. They all look really good and healthy now and are like navy blue with black blotches prior to first shed (not "in the blue" yet though).

I'd love to see pictures of your greenies.
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Thanks guys. I wasn't sure if I wanted to go with Torque...the albino yellow. But he would be my choice if I don't go Greenish.

These are older picts of the greenish and the albino yellow. I gotta get over pneumonia and get new picts.

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Sonya

I'm not mean. You're just a sissy.
Happy Bunny

Wow, I'm digging that greenish...not what I thought was typical of those...but I don't know much about 'em, that's why I wanted to see pics.

THANKS - get well soon.
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that's more of what came to mind when I thought of greenish....
Sonya, yours is KILLER
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Corn snakes and rat snakes...No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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>>Thanks guys. I wasn't sure if I wanted to go with Torque...the albino yellow. But he would be my choice if I don't go Greenish.
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>>Sonya
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that is killer...looks like it has a lot of yellow influence anyway...I think I'd go with the albino yellow....which is pretty nice itself
good luck kick the pneumonia
I know the feeling of recovery...had two stents put in Thursday and ended up back in the hospital Sunday with an infection. made it back to work today...wore me out.
get better and let us know what you decide

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Corn snakes and rat snakes...No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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That greenish is awesome. I have never seen one quite like that, and I see them almost every day in the wild. Do you or anyone you know produce those? I would love to work that look into my moonshine project. Hope your recovery is going well. You too, Doug.

There are two lines of hypo glades out there. The Love line and the Barr line.
I'm pretty certain the Bells work with the Love line - which can and will get pretty large.
The Barr line is much harder to come by and they tend to stay smaller. As adults they look different - deeper orange and nice faint striping.

One of my females (Barr line) bred at 18 months and under three feet. No problems at all and still produces lager and larger clutches for me every year.

byron.d

Like I said, the greenish are from Dwight Good. I wish I had a new pict as the lighter areas are rusty looking now. The downside is these two beasts are MEAN. One settles a little with handling and the other just wants to chew on me. At six foot plus this is inconvenient! (at least they don't go straight for my face like the one boa I have!)

The two hypo everglades I have are different and I wonder about them....think I will breed them this coming year. The female is very solid and true orange, well the male is larger and the saddling shows as a white negative. When it first started showing I thought it was scarred scales from his constant escape attempts (his name is McQueen). But it is cool looking as he matures. I will see if I can get picts really!
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Sonya

I'm not mean. You're just a sissy.
Happy Bunny

That greenish is very interesting. I live in what has become a complete intergrade zone and have not seen either black or yellow rat snakes in many years. I only encounter greenish rats in the wild. I have never seen one like yours. I like the look. I have some (mostly the females) that are C/B which are not aggressive. Once again, that is a handsome animal you have.

>>That greenish is very interesting. I live in what has become a complete intergrade zone and have not seen either black or yellow rat snakes in many years. I only encounter greenish rats in the wild. I have never seen one like yours. I like the look. I have some (mostly the females) that are C/B which are not aggressive. Once again, that is a handsome animal you have.

Thank you, really you guys's enthusiasm is making me not be so negative about the snotface attitude she has....the one isn't even named, but the other is named Witch. And giving me ethusiasm. No one local has Rats.
I really like the Moonshines you have btw.
So often I get people who ask why I don't do Cornsnakes instead. Actually I got most of my ratsnakes trading for my corns. I like rats attitude and size and the fact that they AREN'T bred to death for all sundry of colors.
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Sonya

I'm not mean. You're just a sissy.
Happy Bunny