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I looked at an add the other day that said if you want color then add a jungle to your breeding project. From what I have seen in other adds the jungles dont impress me, can anyone please explain the color varients.
Thank you.
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Edited on July 13, 2010 at 00:28:25 by PHFaust.

jungle is a Pattern morph.. It is not a color morph.. Maybe the ad you saw was het albino, perhaps from the lipstick, coral, or a good 'color' line.. Then it can certainly add color to you albino line, but just adding color by breeding a jungle is a false statement my friend..

OK thank you For your responce.
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Edited on July 13, 2010 at 00:29:39 by PHFaust.

actually jungles are both a color and pattern morph! some are just unbeliveable looking and others just ok and ive even seen a few that were to me very un-desireable. like anything else there are good and not so good variations

I still dont consider them a color morph.. I can see the Motley being considered a color morph cause they are normally Dark with more gray/black color to them.. But personally I dont see the jungle being a color morph.. If you have a litter with jungles and normals, the 'low expression' jungle are hard to tell apart from the normals. If they were truely a colored morph, then it would be easy telling them apart like you can with the Hypo genes. IMO

good point i didnt read your reply until after i posted good point

Ray
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2 triple het sharps m/f who are the ones who started this mess with me(joking)
1 motley with attitude awesome girl
1 sharp anery albino f awesome girl
1 ghost f
1 awesome jungle het anery
hmmmmmm wonder what im up to lmao and i owe it all to my friends thanks to Reptile Shop Jeff Ronne and Albert
1 fridge with beer in it who's coming over lol

>>actually jungles are both a color and pattern morph! some are just unbeliveable looking and others just ok and ive even seen a few that were to me very un-desireable. like anything else there are good and not so good variations

Here is one of our jungles not het for anything from Mr. Gonzalez.

She has some absolutely unreal color and just a knockout pattern. Like some have said it all goes back to selective breeding and buying.
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As long as you look for something Selectively bred you can find color in ANYTHING. Jungles, Motleys, even some Arabesques have been paired selectively to produce some colorful babies. There are some Jungles out there that are drab, it's only because in an attempt to cross into other color or pattern morphs some people were not terribly selective with their choices on mates. If you can find a Pastel Salmon Jungle produced by Jason Gonzalez and if someone will part with it, that would be an animal that will surely add color to any project. Steve Ihrig has produced some colorful Jungles as well.

Be as selective when buying as the breeder was when pairing.

Good luck.
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Jeff Carr
West Coast Constrictors
www.westcoastconstrictors.com

very well said jeff! thank you!

OK, wow, thank you all for the great posts...
I really do appreciate all the info.
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Edited on July 13, 2010 at 00:31:52 by PHFaust.

Jungle is a very "clean" boa. Takes out a lot of the dark pigments.
jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

Summit Pastel Salmon Jungle

Salmon Jungle

Super Salmon Super Jungle Het. Albino

Jungle Sunglow

Super Jungle

Jungle Het. Albino

Hopefully at least one of these will change your mind!

Take Care,
Brandon Weik
Summit Reptiles.com

This one got me going Brandon, hard to beat the summit pastel and jungle combo..IMO

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Kevin Stewart

boldboas.com
kstewart@boldboas.com

wow could send me one of those lol i got a ghost female to put her to lmao (joking)
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2 triple het sharps m/f who are the ones who started this mess with me(joking)
1 motley with attitude awesome girl
1 sharp anery albino f awesome girl
1 ghost f
1 awesome jungle het anery
hmmmmmm wonder what im up to lmao and i owe it all to my friends thanks to Reptile Shop Jeff Ronne and Albert
1 fridge with beer in it who's coming over lol

here is my jungle het anery and i could disagree i think the jungle morph has a habit of cleaning things up when selectively breed

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2 triple het sharps m/f who are the ones who started this mess with me(joking)
1 motley with attitude awesome girl
1 sharp anery albino f awesome girl
1 ghost f
1 awesome jungle het anery
hmmmmmm wonder what im up to lmao and i owe it all to my friends thanks to Reptile Shop Jeff Ronne and Albert
1 fridge with beer in it who's coming over lol

I like a few of these, but they are all albino types, right?
Really nice...
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Edited on July 13, 2010 at 00:32:09 by PHFaust.

A really poor picture that does him no justice. I gotta get some better pics!

jb
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What's written above is purely my opinion. In fact, MOST of what you read on the internet is someone's opinion. Don't take it too seriously

Jonathan Brady
DeviantConstrictors.com
Deviant Constrictors picturetrail

Yes because that is a hypo jungle.. Its the hypo gene that is throwing that color..

the hypos from this litter are nice, but they're not this nice.

jb
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What's written above is purely my opinion. In fact, MOST of what you read on the internet is someone's opinion. Don't take it too seriously

Jonathan Brady
DeviantConstrictors.com
Deviant Constrictors picturetrail

>>Yes because that is a hypo jungle.. Its the hypo gene that is throwing that color..

There are no Hypos here...
http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=8&de=775262
Steve Scroggs and Steve Ihrig both have amazing, colorful Jungles. Like I said, you just have to be selective...
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Jeff Carr
West Coast Constrictors
www.westcoastconstrictors.com

well its been my experience that the jungle has some traits but the biggest one that is noticeable is jungles have some lines that will actually clean up the morphs and not really do much for the color but if you look at siblings that are jungle and non jungle and look at the color the jungles are usually brighter but this is my opinion so it would be easy to assume that the jungle morph has many effects some can be color or more clear

Ray
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2 triple het sharps m/f who are the ones who started this mess with me(joking)
1 motley with attitude awesome girl
1 sharp anery albino f awesome girl
1 ghost f
1 awesome jungle het anery
hmmmmmm wonder what im up to lmao and i owe it all to my friends thanks to Reptile Shop Jeff Ronne and Albert
1 fridge with beer in it who's coming over lol

Wow, that is one nice Boa! What breeding did that snake come from Jonathan? Flirting with perfection!

Brandon Weik

Summit Reptiles.com

It's from your line! Jason Gonzalez produced this perfect little guy in '08!

jb
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What's written above is purely my opinion. In fact, MOST of what you read on the internet is someone's opinion. Don't take it too seriously

Jonathan Brady
DeviantConstrictors.com
Deviant Constrictors picturetrail

Ha! Of course it is! That thing is a smoker! Let me know if you ever decide to part with him. I need some more of my own blood back!

Take Care,
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Brandon Weik

Peter Kahl improved and bred the jungle mutation first. He says that it affects the color and I tend to believe him.

I made this guy in 08. He is somewhere out there..