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Was wondering if both black pastels and cinnies get "duckbills" or if it is just black pastels, hatched a silver bullet and was worried that this clutch would have that issue, needless to say, it didn't. No issues with this little guy, he is from a cinnie pewter to cinnie. I have black pastels also and will try every combo to see which helps weed out that defect.

Milkman, that is one very fine looking animal you made. I hope any of the other combos you try workout that well also. I thought the Cinnie to Cinnie or the Black Pastel to BP is where the duck billing became a problem.. I may be wrong about that but I am breeding Cinnie to BP and BP to Cinnie to see if I can produce the Supers without the duck billing problem,, hope it works out for too. Jay from Sunny AZ
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JEM from sunny AZ.

3.25 Normals
3.15 Pastels
1.0 Super Pastels(Thanks Dan Wolfe for the best looking Super male I have ever seen)
2.8 Normal Spiders
1.2 Spiders 100% het Ghost(thanks Mark Petros)
0.2 Spiders 66% het Ghost(Thanks Steve Beamer)
1.3 Orange/Butterscotch Ghosts(BallPython777 Mark Petros)
0.7 100% het Orange Ghosts
0.3 66% het Orange Ghosts(should prove this year)
0.1 Pastel Ghost
1.0 Citrus Ghost(courtesy of Josh Hutto)
0.1 Super Pastel 100% het Ghost
2.3 Albinos
1.1 Caramel Albinos
0.1 100% het Caramel Albino
0.4 100% het for Albino
0.5 66% het for Albino(should prove this year)
0.7 Yellow Bellies
1.0 Pastel Yellow Belly
1.2 Ivories
1.2 100% het for Clowns(Mark Petros)
1.6 Cinnamons(Thanks Stan Ruppel)
1.0 Pied
1.4 100% het for Pied(Josh Hutto and Paul the Pied Peddler)
0.5 66% het for Pied(should prove out next year with my visual male Pied)
1.5 Mojaves
0.1 Pastave het Ghost
1.1 Beautiful Black Pastels(thanks Gulf Coast Reptiles)
1.3 BumbleBees(thanks for the AWESOME Bees Marc Bailey)
1.1 Pewters(Myself and Scott Priester of Brookside Reptiles)
0.1 Chocolates(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
1.3 Lessers(Josh Hutto)
3.2 Fire's(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
1.2 High White Calico's(Thanks Brent from BRB)
1.1 SpotNoses(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
1.1 Enchi's (Me and Josh Hutto, Thanks again Josh)
1.0 Pinstripe
1.2 Pinstripe 100% het for Ghost
0.1 Lemon Blast
1.0 Vanilla Ghost(Thanks again GCR for all the great snakes)
0.1 Super Vanilla Ghost(Awesome Chris and Shelia from GCR)
0.1 Vanilla Yellow Belly
0.1 Vanilla Mojave
0.1 Vanilla(Another one from Josh Hutto,I must have all your snakes now...lol.) Thanks my friend, Jay
1.1 Stillwater Hypo Bull snakes(Brad Chambers)
0.0.1 Great looking Brown and Tan Desert Bull Snake)
0.0.1 Vietnamese Blue Beauty
1.1 Argentinian Black and White Tegus
1.0 Gotti Pitbull (Tank)
2.0 Beautiful Bengals (Stryker and Cynbad)
14 Tarantulas
Last but most Important 2.2 Children

Thanks for the comments... I have seen it in blacks, not so much in cinnies, unless they were bred into blacks. Saw a few super cinnies posted here a few weeks ago and they looked normal to me. Wondering what everybody else's results have been.

Yes we produced supers from cinny to cinny.And we ended up with 1 super and 2 super parodx and all were perfect.We made sure we got lines that were very much outcrossed.If the lines are too close together you may get duck billing,kinking etc.Hope this helps.
Have a great season! Shane & Kim KSC Exotics

i can't say about the black pastels but cinnies definitely can duckbill. i had a duckbilled cinnie in a clutch of cinnabees(cinnie x spider) last season.

Dave
High End Royal Pythons

Last year I hatched a Silver Bullet from a Cin Pewter x Cin Pewter and it looks normal... not 100% sure, but I think the adults are siblings too.