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Back in 04 or 05 I got in a group of ball pythons. One of the males kinda looked like a mojave. I decided to keep this one back and I called it "mojavish" just for clarification in my racks. I bred this snake to some normals in 07 to see what would be produced. Some of the babies looked a little like the male so I kept all of them back as "dinker" project. I also lost the original male in 08. Well this past/current breeding season I had a male of size so I bred him to a mojave female just to see if there was something there. I checked the clutch last saturday and about flipped. I see a head sticking out that looks almost like a crystal. On sunday it came out and I had a second one slit that was also a crystal looking snake. I contacted Tom Baker about this and I believe that the snakes that I was calling "mojavish" are actually another line of specials. So now I have another line of crystals that I will be calling TCR crystals. I didn't want to call them something else as there are already enough different names for the same snake. Tom and I both agree that if it's the same then keep it the same just diffierntiate (SP) the line rather than creating some new name for something that already exists. I also have eggs incubating from my Baker crystal to a super mojave that should be out in a week or so. So we'll see if they look the same out of the egg. Oh, I also got a set of twin mojaves out of that clutch.

That is an awesome looking ball! Congrats! What I don't understand is what does that make the one that has the special gene? Is it something that is caused by mixing multiple genes or is it just a random animal that you bred and came up with the cristal?

thanks Andy
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Most Excellent Dude(from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure)Congratulations on such a great project that worked out for you.. Good luck with everything else you may have in mind for them, Jay from Sunny AZ
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JEM from sunny AZ.

3.25 Normals
3.15 Pastels
1.0 Super Pastels(Thanks Dan Wolfe for the best looking Super male I have ever seen)
2.8 Normal Spiders
1.2 Spiders 100% het Ghost(thanks Mark Petros)
0.2 Spiders 66% het Ghost(Thanks Steve Beamer)
1.3 Orange/Butterscotch Ghosts(BallPython777 Mark Petros)
0.7 100% het Orange Ghosts
0.3 66% het Orange Ghosts(should prove this year)
0.1 Pastel Ghost
1.0 Citrus Ghost(courtesy of Josh Hutto)
0.1 Super Pastel 100% het Ghost
2.3 Albinos
1.1 Caramel Albinos
0.1 100% het Caramel Albino
0.4 100% het for Albino
0.5 66% het for Albino(should prove this year)
0.7 Yellow Bellies
1.0 Pastel Yellow Belly
1.2 Ivories
1.2 100% het for Clowns(Mark Petros)
1.6 Cinnamons(Thanks Stan Ruppel)
1.0 Pied
1.4 100% het for Pied(Josh Hutto and Paul the Pied Peddler)
0.5 66% het for Pied(should prove out next year with my visual male Pied)
1.5 Mojaves
0.1 Pastave het Ghost
1.1 Beautiful Black Pastels(thanks Gulf Coast Reptiles)
1.3 BumbleBees(thanks for the AWESOME Bees Marc Bailey)
1.1 Pewters(Myself and Scott Priester of Brookside Reptiles)
0.1 Chocolates(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
1.3 Lessers(Josh Hutto)
3.2 Fire's(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
1.2 High White Calico's(Thanks Brent from BRB)
1.1 SpotNoses(Thanks Brandon of Priceless Pythons)
1.1 Enchi's (Me and Josh Hutto, Thanks again Josh)
1.0 Pinstripe
1.2 Pinstripe 100% het for Ghost
0.1 Lemon Blast
1.0 Vanilla Ghost(Thanks again GCR for all the great snakes)
0.1 Super Vanilla Ghost(Awesome Chris and Shelia from GCR)
0.1 Vanilla Yellow Belly
0.1 Vanilla Mojave
0.1 Vanilla(Another one from Josh Hutto,I must have all your snakes now...lol.) Thanks my friend, Jay
1.1 Stillwater Hypo Bull snakes(Brad Chambers)
0.0.1 Great looking Brown and Tan Desert Bull Snake)
0.0.1 Vietnamese Blue Beauty
1.1 Argentinian Black and White Tegus
1.0 Gotti Pitbull (Tank)
2.0 Beautiful Bengals (Stryker and Cynbad)
14 Tarantulas
Last but most Important 2.2 Children

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glad...and happy...good luck....congrats...make a million of them....
I want purple snakes....so make alot.....!

...have fun....

cool stuff...and your one looks different than the other...color tint -wise....?....gotta go look again....

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...one of the CraZieS...?...

........JY.......

Congratulations! That is very exciting. Good news for crossing lines to increase genetic strength.

Beautiful hatchlings!
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Cheers,
Jessica Gibbs
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Those are very nice. Congrats on seeing that project through. That must have felt great to see those baby Crystals peaking out at you.
Matt Ozsvath
Lizards of Oz
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Congrats and great luck!
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Matt Lerer
Ghi Reptiles

I hate you...

Not really. That is awesome. My jealousy abounds. Haha.
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That's great news Bruce, they look really good. It'll be interesting to see your new line side by side with the baker line to see if there are any small differences.

That turned out nice! Congrats.

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Congrats and thanks for not creating a new name! It's confusing enough without having two names for the same thing...

They are very cool...

Oz
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Congrats.Do you have pics of your specials ? and how do they compare to Toms line ??

Congrats!
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