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Last year I hatched out 3 Double Het PPA x Axanthic males this last December and it's been interesting to see how all 3 are a bit different from each other, especially the 2nd male (wh-09.3.2) who doesn't have the typical banding on the top of his head but instead has speckling.

So, I was curious if anybody else has produced or seen any other Westerns that exhibit this type of lack of patterning on top of the head.

Here's some pictures:

WH-09.3.1

WH-09.3.2 (This is the one I'm talking about)

WH-09.3.3

I also have a small clutch of PPA x Axanthic eggs that are currently incubating and should be due to hatch sometime within the first half of August. I was hesitant to post these earlier as the eggs took, what I thought was, a long time to develop any vascular system viewable by candling. Normally I see veins within the first 3-8 days, but these eggs didn't start to show any signs of veins until 14-18 days.

Thanks for looking!
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Troy Rexroth
Rextiles

Great work ! Nice looking snakes !

Best regards
Grzegorz

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Thanks Grzegorz!

It will be interesting to see how the colors change on the last two as they keep getting lighter colored as they shed.
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Troy Rexroth
Rextiles

Those are nice. I have only seen it a few times. It seems to pop up most between morph x morph. I can only think of 1 f1 from a wc that had something similar.
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Thank you,
Kevin Rhodes

www.spiderhognose.com

http://www.freewebs.com/spreptile/index.htm
http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc314/lifesciences/?action=view¤t=09-09hognose001.jpg

Thanks Kevin! That's interesting if it's a morph x morph kind of thing, it makes me wonder if it's heritable or not. Do you know if anybody that has had these have tried to reproduce the trait or if it was reproducible?
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Troy Rexroth
Rextiles

Very cool Troy. I wonder if it could be a genetic marker of some sort, like is seen in the ball pythons??
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Ultimate Hognose

Thanks Jon! Well, I guess I will definitely have something new to play with and see if it's heritable or not. I kind of doubt it's a marker though as I would think that the other 2 would have shown something at least vaguely similar considering they are all related. But who knows, I'm definitely willing to take the time to find out.
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Troy Rexroth
Rextiles

That head shot is really flipppen cool,sweet color and the head pattern is something new for sure.

Brent

See you at Daytona??
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Brent Bumgardner
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Superconda Website

Thanks Brent! To be honest, I'm not holding my breath on it being a heritable trait, which is why I started this thread in the first place, to find out if others have any experience with this. If it is heritable, it could possibly be used into making a Superconda even a little more patternless, something that I think would be really interesting to see.

Here's a picture of his overall body color. Not the best representation of him as I think the picture turned out a little lighter than he is in person, but it's fairly close.

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Troy Rexroth
Rextiles