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I finally got a half way decent pic of this girl. She is from Scott's hybino line(75% chain/25% FL)and is not a hypo. But just look at the orange showing through. These are just so variable I cant wait til they start producing morphs! Just got the camera today, will work on the focus,lol.

Dude really you need a self focus camera. Mine does everything, I just point and shoot. Looks like a cool snake, but it's too fuzzy. If I lived closer I would go over and take pictures for you man, just so I could get a good look at your snakes. I know you got some cool stuff!
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra

Half Way Decent.........ROFLMAO!!!!!!!.......LOL
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John Lassiter
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When he said "Half way decent", Jeff meant you can just tell it is a photo of some sort of snake!..LMAO!!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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First day with new camera, thought it was just my eyes. NOPE. Thanks again for the constructive critics, new pics tomorrow! On a different note, just hatched out a clutch of Goini.....all the banded hatched first(5)then the last 3 to hatch were all patternless. Coincidence?? Anyone else seen this?

The patternless ones wanted to make a powerful impression on you, so they all agreed to be "fashionably late" so you would go....WHOA!!!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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LOL

Coincidence-my recent S. GA clutch hatched out in order-5 females in a row, then 5 males!
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np

As far as the patterned Goini hatching first ,prolly just good southern politeness letting the ladies go first ,if there is any concistency of patternless L.g.Goini being almost all males

"if there is any concistency of patternless L.g.Goini being almost all males"

Yep!,...quite true my man!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

Jeff, Nothing personal here. I do NOT consider myself a good photographer by any means, but I don't think I could take photos than bad if I tried to with today's cameras (even the disposable ones, lol). Try reading a few pages of the manual and make sure you have the right settings on the camera. There is usually an "AUTO" setting which should be just about Jeffproof. Make sure you have some decent lighting in the room, point and shoot. You should get much better photos than what you have been. Many of us would like to see good photos of your stuff. Good luck, Joe.
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Joe

Joe, no manual with the camera, but it was on auto....good lighting....must be this force field I pump out..

ya it must be the camera. Not you!
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>>Joe, no manual with the camera, but it was on auto....good lighting....must be this force field I pump out..

No manual? What did it "fall off the truck?"

Go online with the make and model and you should be able to download a manual.
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Joe

What's that saying about craftsmen and their tools?

On a more serious note, I've had a hard time with my camera focusing then unfocusing lately and I don't know what the heck changed. Frustrating as sin
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With my camera you have to hold the button down about half way for it to auto focus then push it down all the way to take the picture. It's a little annoying cause it takes 2 or 3 seconds for this, and many times the snake won't wait 2 or 3 seconds. But this maybe what is happening. Try it and see.
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra

Jeff does the camera have a macro setting?
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Randy Whittington

Are you trying to use your cell phone camera again?

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Rainer, that is AWESOME! LOL>

I am trying to capture the color and pattern more than a head shot or something to most standards. This is not a hypo, she hatched out looking just like any baby chain king, white bands and no orange. I like.

Now I can at least tell what kind it is!

just messin with ya!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

Try pushing the button halfway first for auto focus. Then push down the rest of the way to take the pic. This one is better. The Snake looks good man!
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra

Alot of kings hatch out with orange, some VERY orange. All fade, some completely. This one is exactly the opposite, started out plain black and white and looked like any chain king. For those of us trying to make a king that holds orange....this may be a key ingredient! Know what I mean? This is a nice little firecracker....but her orange will fade.

Yeah, I agree. Any type of kings will tend to LOOSE their reds and oranges as they mature, rather than gain any.

You must have discovered and changed something on your new camera. That is the sharpest(in focus) photo I have ever seen from you to date!

On most camera's, when you get close to a certain distance, you need to put the setting on "macro", or else things are all blurry.

Also, another way is to take a bigger file size pic (e.g. 1600 x 1200), and crop it down in a photo program. This makes the photo much larger, and makes the subject look much closer too. But the more you crop things, the "grainier" they become too, so the larger file pics need to be pretty clear and crisp.

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

Ya, adjusted it to auto and resized to the best quality. Of course half the problem is that I'm in denial of needing glasses, and I bet I'm not alone here on that either. The type of the cameras is so friggin small......

Yeah I have glasses and I need stronger ones, lol.
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra

Extreme flame brooksi do not fade!

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Boneyardreptiles.com

More than half of what are called flames I cant see a noticable difference between what are "normals"(especially the hypos)and the regulars. I really like those "extreme" types, but post a pic with a baby beside the adult and tell me that it doesnt fade.

I am also having a tough time with the notion that this extremely red youngster will look identical to this photo in three years.

~Doug

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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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Here ya go!

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Boneyardreptiles.com

Wow!,...that does have way more red than I figured it would have. How old is it in that pic?.

It changed just a little bit, but not very much, I must admit.....very nice!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

Its about 2 years old in that pic.
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Boneyardreptiles.com

I really like the extreme flames, those are what should be called flames in my opinion. I know they retain a good amount of orange, but even those fade a bit as they age right?? Tryin to figure out if any other lines get MORE orange as they age....

Yeah, also their natural tendency for basal lightening of the scales would have to be somewhat of a factor here as well.

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

That's actually the first and largest of its kind so no one really knows if its gonna change more. So far the little bit of black it had just about disappeared. The sides lightened a little but the red on the back has not changed at all. That pic was taken a year ago and the snake still looks the same today. As far as anything getting more orange or red, some flame brooksi start off with red on the sides and red bands across the top and as the ontogenetic change occurs the black portions between the bands gradually fill in reddish orange. Is there anything that starts off a dull color and gets more vibrant? That I don't think so!

Karl
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Boneyardreptiles.com

You guys said the same thing about my Golden Peanut Butter brooks 3 years ago and then i posted updated pics and they are still red.
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Doug don't you know that is a thayeri x corn. No way any brooks can look better than your normal pair you got from me a couple yaars ago..

*end sarcasm*
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Great pic and great snake, but I'm a bit confused. You said it gained the red and it will loose it again? Is that why they're called firecracker? It bursts into color than it's gone?
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra

The real orange pic is a Bell line fireracker, thats what they named the line. Taken with my old camera, the orange will fade a bit but still be retained in adulthood. The first pic I posted was of a hybino chain king line (1st pics with new camera), this line the orange continues to intensify with age. Combining the 2 I'd bet would lead to the most Orange retention in adulthood yet.

Now I can at least tell what kind it is!

Oh oh oh! I kNOW, I KNOW! It is a snake.
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