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what toad is this?

varanid Jul 18, 2010 09:01 PM

I was getting some stuff behind the snake food freezer in the shed today and found this guy. My first guess was Woodhouse (most common local toad) but he looks a bit different, with the blotches being much smaller than I see on many woodhousii?

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Replies (3)

varanid Jul 19, 2010 10:00 AM

I realize the photo doesn't show it real well, but there were no cranial crest either, something I've associated with Woodhousii. The only Bufo I know of locally lacking a cranial crest is speciosus but it doesn't have a vertebral stripe??
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We wouldn't have 6 and a half billion people if you had to be beautiful to get laid.
6.6 African House snakes
3.2 reticulated pythons
.1 corn snake
4.2 Florida Kings
1.2 speckled kings
1.2 ball pythons
0.0.1 Argentine boa

GerryG Jul 19, 2010 06:24 PM

I looked at this earlier today and was going to say it was Bufo woodhousii australis, but the seeming lack of cranial crests in the picture and time constraints didn't allow a reply. Your follow up post stating there are indeed no crests only adds to my confusion... are you certain there are none, maybe ill-defined A description of the belly(spotted/not spotted), throat(light/dark), color along/near the back that may not be apparent in the photo etc. Woodhousii are known to hybridize with many other species in their range so it's possible you just might have stumbled across a mutt.

Sorry for not having a concrete answer, there just might not be one in this case. Perhaps posting the question in the toad forum may produce a better answer.

Gerry

varanid Jul 19, 2010 07:29 PM

I thought about that but it's dead in there.
I can say there weren't any discernable cranial crest. We're in the panhandle, so austrailias is just bizzare too; I think all we get are the nominate. I'll try to catch it later and get a good look at the gular folds...the thought of it being a hybrid is intriguing. It's a funky looking toad and I toyed with catching it...but he's happy in my shed and eats some of those pesky bugs there.
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We wouldn't have 6 and a half billion people if you had to be beautiful to get laid.
6.6 African House snakes
3.2 reticulated pythons
.1 corn snake
4.2 Florida Kings
1.2 speckled kings
1.2 ball pythons
0.0.1 Argentine boa

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