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Are there any HYPO STRIPED Brooksi yet?

jeff schofield Jul 21, 2010 12:24 AM

More than a little curious....more info to follow.

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Jlassiter Jul 21, 2010 12:37 AM

>>More than a little curious....more info to follow.

I had two back in 2005 that hatched around 2001 or so....

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jeff schofield Jul 21, 2010 01:42 AM

Just hatched out tonite, better pics to follow(OKOKOK)but this one is kinda nice!
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Boneyard Jul 21, 2010 10:51 AM

Very nice!
I hatched one a week or so ago.
No goini in there though.


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Bluerosy Jul 21, 2010 11:55 AM

I hatched out striped Eastern x Florida many years ago. but they don't count. Boneyards is the closest I have seen to a striped hypo brooks.

The first true striped brooks will be done here by me in a few years. I have a new line of perfect striped brooks i am intergrading into my sysytem of gentics.
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Boneyard Jul 21, 2010 12:10 PM

Are they genetic? Any history? Post a pic!

Karl
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Bluerosy Jul 21, 2010 07:59 PM
Boneyard Jul 21, 2010 10:06 PM

Killer!!!
Thanks for the pic!
They have not been proven genetic yet?
Hopefully they are.
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Bluerosy Jul 21, 2010 10:21 PM

I posted dsme pics of the babies below from a stripe to stripe. I have not had a chance to prove anything with them yet as they are brand new to my collection,. That is why i was not ready to post pics.. Whatever it is, it is a strong trait as it is. And it is not some abberant anomalty like we have seen in the hypos. It is really different.
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Boneyard Jul 22, 2010 04:02 PM

Did you produce the babies? Were there babies that did not look like the parents? Whatever they are, they are awesome!!!
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Bluerosy Jul 22, 2010 04:30 PM

Did you produce the babies? Were there babies that did not look like the parents? Whatever they are, they are awesome!!!

I did not produce them. i got them from a breeder. All the babies looked like the parents. This year i am buying all the stock he is producing and sharing some with a friend.

Like my orighinal PB's and New England axanthics, I know the locality info of where they came from. So they are a locality sopecific Florida as well. Not just something that popped out of two unkown parantage.
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Jeff Schofield Jul 21, 2010 02:59 PM

Rainer, I think with the variability of the HYPO gene that its quite possible for someone to beat you to it. You can still name it SPOT though....LMAO

bluerosy Jul 21, 2010 03:39 PM

Rainer, I think with the variability of the HYPO gene that its quite possible for someone to beat you to it. You can still name it SPOT though....LMAO

Nope what i have are not from the hypo trait. they are from w/c and the real deal. Not partial striped or anything. Nobody has seen these yet.
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Boneyard Jul 21, 2010 04:07 PM

Are they genetic? Any history? Post a pic!
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Jeff Schofield Jul 21, 2010 09:12 PM

First, we know you are working to prove it before "claim"it, kudos. They are top secret, thats cool, no pic needed. Being a WC Florida king, not sure where the intrigue is there... Is the stripe better than the pic I have up here? If so, wow!

Bluerosy Jul 21, 2010 09:45 PM

First, we know you are working to prove it before "claim"it, kudos. They are top secret, thats cool, no pic needed. Being a WC Florida king, not sure where the intrigue is there... Is the stripe better than the pic I have up here? If so, wow!

I think you missed the pic above.
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Bluerosy Jul 21, 2010 09:47 PM

here is a pic of another.

and a baby pic:

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Bluerosy Jul 21, 2010 09:50 PM

Jeff,
I am reposting the pic here again that you missed above.


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Jlassiter Jul 21, 2010 09:53 PM

Those are freakin Killer!
They almost don't look like a Floridana....
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John Lassiter
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Jeff Schofield Jul 21, 2010 10:02 PM

Rainer, striping is a "different" genetically as you know. I'm sure there will be many different types(line bred stripes, genetic stripes, reverse stripes, etc). Yours there have the "black" stripe with dual pinstripes. That would be the "reverse" right? I see striped Coastal plains milks as the perfect colubrid example, and they have the "white" stripe outlined in both black and red. There are alot of imperfect or partially striped babies in a clutch, they arent ever ALL "perfectly" striped. This one I have hatched out of a normal egg in a normal clutch from recessive(already related)parents so its got alot better chance of being genetic right?

Boneyard Jul 22, 2010 11:50 AM

Genetic as to say you can reproduce it? Probably. Genetic as in simple recessive? Doubtful. Your animal has Goini in it. There has been plenty of stripe like Goini for years. Stripes have never been proven simple recessive in Goini. The animal is also part hypo Brooksi. Plenty of weird abberancies with hypo brooksi including stripes. Striped hypo Brooksi have never proved simple recessive. They do pop up, especially from striped or abberant parents, it's just not predictable. This is just my opinion and you've been around long enough to know the only way to be sure is to hold it back and breed it. I hope it does turn out to be a simple recessive trait! Good luck with it.

Karl

Striped Anery Ghost (Stripe not simple recessive)

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Jeff Schofield Jul 22, 2010 12:45 PM

Ya, I know how variable the Hypo line can be, thats why I asked. I know you gotta PROVE stuff, and thats the reason Rainer hasnt come forward before. You are right, just figured if someone had bred this type of hypo anomaly before....and the results. That would affect my desire to keep this one, and start another line around it. I think its a girl, and it doesnt look like the Goini anomaly which is usually a Male trait.

Boneyard Jul 22, 2010 03:31 PM

Another thing to note is that the majority of striped brooksi have the side bands connecting to the stripe like the one I posted above. Yours does not. It may be a worth wile project. I'd be interested to see what happens if you breed it back to a parent.

Karl
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JTColubrids Jul 21, 2010 08:39 PM

Tom Stevens produced some striped hypos that are pure FL and I have a pair that are almost adults, really nice ones!!!

Jeff Schofield Jul 21, 2010 09:13 PM

How are the stripes holding into adulthood? Holding or faded out? Pics?

Jlassiter Jul 21, 2010 10:04 PM

>>Just hatched out tonite, better pics to follow(OKOKOK)but this one is kinda nice!
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That looks like a tessera corn snake.....

Very cool Jeff.....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

CrimsonKing Jul 22, 2010 04:50 AM

Jeff when I hatched out similar hypo FL years back I got rid of them pretty fast...and cheap. I just did not care for them and it was not what I was looking for. I wanted clean straight stripes if any. The "striped" sinaloand are hideous to me.
But that's just me I'm sure..Lots of people like that look.
Good luck.
:Mark
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