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What will She Produce - A Genetic Quest

livinginvestment Jul 22, 2010 09:09 PM

She is an Albino. He is a Jungle Het Albino.

She is an Albino. He is a Jungle Het Super Hypo.

She is an Albino. He is a Leopard Het Albino.

Would anyone care to advise the breakdown of results for any or all of these combinations?

Thank,

Kenny
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2.3 BCI
0.3 BCC
1.1 Eastern Indigo
1.3.4 Western Hognose (Het Albino)
2.2 Ball Python (Het Pied/Spider/Pastel)
1.1 Chondro (Mixer/Sorong)
1.1 Retic (Possible Het Calico)
1.1 Kimberly Monitor
1.3.7 Crested Gecko
0.1 Striped California Kingsnake "Skid Mark"
0.0.1 Florida Softshell Turtle
0.0.1 African Long Neck Turtle
1.0 Pitbull
1.2 Kids
0.1 Ball and Chain

Replies (7)

BrownsBoas Jul 22, 2010 09:46 PM

Jungle Het Albino X Albino

25% Albino Jungle
25% Albino
25% Jungle Het Albino
25% Het Albino

Super Salmon Jungle X Albino

50% Salmon Jungle Het Albino
50% Salmon Het. Albino

Leopard Het Albino X Albino

50% Albino Het Leopard
50% Dbl Het Albino Leopard

Al Brown/Brown's Boas
Link

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Al Brown/Brown's Boas
www.BrownsBoas.biz

livinginvestment Jul 22, 2010 10:03 PM

Thanks Al...I tried Genetics Wizard but I'm just not getting it!
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2.3 BCI
0.3 BCC
1.1 Eastern Indigo
1.3.4 Western Hognose (Het Albino)
2.2 Ball Python (Het Pied/Spider/Pastel)
1.1 Chondro (Mixer/Sorong)
1.1 Retic (Possible Het Calico)
1.1 Kimberly Monitor
1.3.7 Crested Gecko
0.1 Striped California Kingsnake "Skid Mark"
0.0.1 Florida Softshell Turtle
0.0.1 African Long Neck Turtle
1.0 Pitbull
1.2 Kids
0.1 Ball and Chain

maizeysdad Jul 23, 2010 08:10 AM

There's no such thing as a het super hypo. Is this animal a hypo that is a possible super hypo?

livinginvestment Jul 23, 2010 08:51 AM

Correction...Poss super Hypo
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2.3 BCI
0.3 BCC
1.1 Eastern Indigo
1.3.4 Western Hognose (Het Albino)
2.2 Ball Python (Het Pied/Spider/Pastel)
1.1 Chondro (Mixer/Sorong)
1.1 Retic (Possible Het Calico)
1.1 Kimberly Monitor
1.3.7 Crested Gecko
0.1 Striped California Kingsnake "Skid Mark"
0.0.1 Florida Softshell Turtle
0.0.1 African Long Neck Turtle
1.0 Pitbull
1.2 Kids
0.1 Ball and Chain

rainbowsrus Jul 23, 2010 01:41 PM

Technically speaking there is such a thing as a het Super Hypo. Just because it's a visual trait does not mean the genetics behind it change. When talking about Hypos, Super = Homozygous. All Hypos except Supers(Homozygous) could be called het Super(Homozygous) Hypo's.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

maizeysdad Jul 23, 2010 08:47 PM

While we're splitting. . .

The Supers are "dominant" hypos and the regular hypos are "incomplete dominant" hypos. To call them visual heterozygous isn't inaccurate, but it does make it confusing by sharing a term with a recessive mutation.

Paul Hollander Jul 24, 2010 09:13 AM

I have to disagree with both rainbowsrus and maizeysdad because I have looked up the definitions of the words in King and Stansfield's book, A dictionary of genetics.

Standard genetics definitions:
homozygous -- the two genes in a gene pair are the same.
Heterozygous -- the two genes in a gene pair are not the same.

By extension, a homozygous snake has a homozygous gene pair and a heterozygous snake has a heterozygous gene pair.

A gene pair cannot be heterozygous and homozygous at the same time. Just as a red sock and a black sock cannot be two red socks.

A heterozygous salmon boa has a salmon mutant gene paired with a normal gene. These are the snakes we call salmon boas or hypos. A homozygous salmon boa (slang -- super salmon) has a pair of salmon genes.

A heterozygous gene pair is not limited to a normal gene and a recessive mutant gene. This belief goes back to when the only mutant genes known were recessives. It has hung on because most of the authors of herper web pages just repeat what earlier authors have written.

"Dominant" and "incomplete dominant" have absolutely nothing to do with whether a gene pair is homozygous or heterozygous.

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