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Out in the field

Joe_M Jul 24, 2010 12:04 PM

A fellow field herper from Southern California contacted me a few months back and said he was going to be in the Boston area in mid July and was interested in seeing some native snakes in the area, milk snakes being one of the targets he’d like to photograph. The heat of July is not a great time to find milk snakes up here, but I told him I’m always up for taking a hike with the kids to see what we could turn up. We had a little rain the evening before we went out and was hopeful that it would help as we had just been through a heat wave for the few days before. Not 5 minutes out of the cars I had one of the kids flip a piece of a small wooden fence post and to our (well my) surprise was this little guy. Success!

When we were going back to the cars about an hour or so later the kids wanted to check if the milk was still there and it was. Since we left it had shed from about the midpoint of its body down, with the old skin still remaining from the head to the midpoint. This was the first time I had ever seen that. It was explained to me that it was probably a result of us handling it just prior to shed.

We continued on and I took him to a spot where we have found a handful of adult easterns this year in this rock crevice. Here’s a photo that I previously photographed of the crevice.

My daughter peeked into the crevice and said there was a big milksnake in there. She was right, but unfortunately it was too far into the crevice to get a photo. What was interesting was that my guest took a peek into the crevice and then asked me if I had ever found a green milksnake? This adult definitely had a green hue similar to this one I flipped last year.

I made a return trip just before sunset and the milk was still deep in the crevice. Hopefully I’ll be able to get some shots of that one in the near future.

We went on to have a great day and find a bunch of other stuff including frogs and toads in various stages of development, garter snakes, rickneck snakes, and this gravid redbelly snake.

My guest said to me “Why don’t you take it home for a little experiment with the kids?” I don’t like to take many things home because then the kids want to take everything we see home, but I decided to take this one home and set it up until the babies were born. I explained this to the kids and they agreed. A week and a half later I got a phone call while at work from a very excited young girl trying to explain to me that the mommy redbelly had her babies! WOW are these things small at birth.

This morning it was time to release mom and her babies back to where mom was found. Of course my daughter and I had to flip a few things when we got there.

Here is a group shot of what we found. I had to put them in the delicup that I had the redbellys in to be released in order to get them all in one photo.

I wanted to take a photo of the yearling eastern milk with the baby redbellys to show just how small they were.

It was a good idea until this milk decided he was a little hungry, lol.

One parting shot just before we headed home.


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Joe

Replies (15)

amazondoc Jul 24, 2010 12:09 PM

Wonderful pics -- thanks for posting them!
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0.1 Peruvian rainbow boa (Amaru)
2.0 Brazilian rainbow boas (Arco, Olho)
1.3.1 Honduran milksnakes (Chicchan, Chanir, Hari, TBA)
1.0 Thayeri kingsnake (Coatl)
0.0.1 Mexican black kingsnake (Mora)
2.7 corns (Cetto, Tolosa, Uce, TBA)
1,000,000.1,000,000 other critters

GerryG Jul 24, 2010 06:21 PM

should bring that luck my way. I have yet to see a milk snake here in Maine this year but while on searches for turtles have now had multiple encounters with snakes listed as special concern or endangered for the state... go figure.

Gerry

denbar Jul 24, 2010 08:22 PM

Sounds like a near perfect day. The pictures were great. Thanks for sharing.

rtdunham Jul 25, 2010 08:39 AM

Great post. I enjoyed that very much.

bwaffa Jul 25, 2010 07:48 PM

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HondoAberrant Jul 25, 2010 08:29 PM

Those "Green" milks are actually "Monster Island" milks, and nobody is allowed to talk about them or wonder where they are from. Don't even point at them.
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Scott MacLeod
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RG Jul 26, 2010 07:35 AM

thanks for sharing...we need more stuff like this!

-Rusty

Sunherp Jul 26, 2010 09:13 AM

You know I'm a field guy at heart, and this type of post always gets me fired up! Nice finds, man - especially for this time of year!

-Cole

Jeff Schofield Jul 26, 2010 06:15 PM

The last time I went out I got skunked! With this heat they arent close to the surface when I'm there. I'm no morning guy, LMAO. Good finds!

Sunherp Jul 27, 2010 09:41 AM

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Jeff Schofield Jul 27, 2010 11:15 AM

Naw, I'm a night person. I get ALOT done between 11pm and 3am every night, when there are no phones ringing and people stopping by. Sometimes I clean cages, sometimes dancers come by after work...

jeff schofield Aug 01, 2010 08:43 PM

I am up til my usual 4AM time(this time with my date and a jagermeister machine), get 2 hours of sleep and get out by 6AM. My legs get all cut up, and even with recent rain and temps only in the 70s I got skunked AGAIN. Twice in a row! First time thats happened in 20 years!! Not waking up that early again for a LOOOONG time, LMAO!

viborero Aug 01, 2010 09:15 PM

Welcome to my life, man!!

I think I am going ro start laying out field guides in my favorite spots so the snakes CAN READ WHAT THEIR IDEAL CONDITIONS FOR MOVEMENT ARE!!
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Diego

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varanid Jul 31, 2010 10:53 PM

yeah. I had hoped to go out this morning...90 degrees by 8am, peaked at like 103 (according to my thermometer), and didn't drop back below 90 till 10pm.
I did see a cnemmie out just before dusk though
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.1 corn snake
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Joe_M Jul 31, 2010 10:29 AM

Thanks everyone.

Here's another non lizard eating triangulum photographed this week. I had found this same individual that my kids called "Nubby" earlier in the year.

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Joe

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