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What were the odds??

54podge Jul 26, 2010 10:58 AM

clutch #1: Normal Sire, Lavender Dame...... 6 normals

Clutch #2: Normal sire, Snow Dame.......4 confirmed normals, 2 peeking out that appear normal, one unemerged.

Crap, I figured I would get at least one or two morphs out of the bunch! On a lighter note, the clutch hatching now are easily double the size of the hatchlings from the other clutch. Is this due more to diet, or size of the female?
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1.0 C/B Brooks
0.1 C/B Lavender Brooks
0.1 C/B Snow Brooks
0.0.1 W/C Scarlet King (RIP)
0.0.1 W/C Eastern Milk
0.1 W/C Yellow Rat
0.0.1 W/C Western Garter
1.0 C/B Black Lab (RIP)
1.0 C/B Min. PoodleXAmer. Eskimo hybrid
1.0 C/B Goofy Cat
1.2 C/B Children
0.1 W/C wife (recently returned to the wild!)

Replies (6)

khaman Jul 26, 2010 11:53 AM

Unless the male(s) you used were het for lavender or axanthic, (Which by your results they were not) you will not get any morphs due to those traits being recessive.

As for the size eggs incubated at higher temps can yield larger hatchlings but that can also be genetics.

Jlassiter Jul 26, 2010 08:05 PM

>>As for the size eggs incubated at higher temps can yield larger hatchlings but that can also be genetics.

On the contrary.......Higher temps will yield smaller babies that will hatch out around in a shorter incubation time......At least that has been my experience.......

I incubated some thayeri eggs back in 2002 at 82F....They hatched out very tiny after only 49 days of incubation......
Very hard to get on whole f/t pinks......

The next year I incubated the clutch from the same parents at 79F and had bigger, healthier, easy to feed offspring at 60 days.......

Now I incubate at 79-80F and expect offspring around 60 days give or take a few days.....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

BrianS. Jul 27, 2010 08:07 AM

Cooler, longer incubation = bigger babies. Only makes sense really, longer time in the egg to grow, maybe even a little slower metabolism keeping them fatter.
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Brian Suter

www.serpenteer.com

Jlassiter Jul 26, 2010 12:15 PM

>>clutch #1: Normal Sire, Lavender Dame...... 6 normals
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>>Clutch #2: Normal sire, Snow Dame.......4 confirmed normals, 2 peeking out that appear normal, one unemerged.
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>>Crap, I figured I would get at least one or two morphs out of the bunch! On a lighter note, the clutch hatching now are easily double the size of the hatchlings from the other clutch. Is this due more to diet, or size of the female?

Out of those pairings you should only get normal looking hets......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
www.coastalbendcaptivebreeding.com

Jeff Schofield Jul 26, 2010 01:45 PM

Now you have posted here before, but have you bothered to read others' posts on genetics? Most any kingsnake book printed in the last couple decades includes a genetics tutorial. No ones asking you to be 100% on the venacular or follow a Bluerosy post but this is a excellent resource. Congrats on the babies! Breed them back to their moms and you should get something different!

jl8243 Jul 26, 2010 05:16 PM

Clutch 1: 100% het lavender
Clutch 2: 100% het snow
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Josh Loehr

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