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For the second time in my breeding career I have produced Axanthics and I am scratching my head as to where they came from. Most know I did it 2 years ago with the Lightning Pied and this past weekend it happened again!

This time it was from an Ablbino X het albino pairing. As I traced my records back, the mother was purchased in 2001 from Matt Salyer of Oklahoma. I produced albinos from her and kept one male back. He is the best albino I have ever produced and as an adult is just incredible high contrast. I bred him back to his mother this year and the resulting clutch is below.

They were hatched yesterday so they still have to shed. I thought I'd share these pics with you to get your opinion. Once again I have no clue as to which line of Axanthics they are or if it is a new line.

Thanks for looking and I hope you too will get your share of surprises!

Markus

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Isn't it fairly common for het albinos to look really pale fresh out of the egg, and then color up? I don't know if it's just the picture, but those don't really look like Axanthics to me.

either Jolliff axanthics snuck in...........

or .....you have blushed amel line....but the blushed usually blushes a few normals(het) AND a few amels also, making them appear to be snows for a week or so..........

....good luck...
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I wouldn’t be so sure those are Axanthic Mark. Here is a group shot and a couple of individuals of a clutch from Het Albino to Het Albino. When I sent the pictures in 2006 to Brian from BHB who sold me the pair he told me that the Axanthic looking ones produce what Kevin calls Blush Albinos. He says it is a marker for true Hets. I will know this year if what he told me is true since I kept the Axanthic looking Females. After a few sheds the Axanthic ones turned completely normal looking with reddish brown replacing the gray color

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Albey Scholl
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....some are but it is a separate gene. What ever you want to call it, "blush", "anery", "yellow blush", "false axanthic" it's a different gene. We have been over this before & It has been proven.
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Best regards,
Alan Cole

>>....some are but it is a separate gene. What ever you want to call it, "blush", "anery", "yellow blush", "false axanthic" it's a different gene. We have been over this before & It has been proven.
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>>Best regards,
>>Alan Cole

How has it been proven different? I'm not arguing, just really wanting to know. A good friend of mine bred a blushing male to a completely unrelated het female and produced 1 high contrast albino and 2 snow looking blushing albinos. Within two weeks or so all looked pretty much the same.

thanks
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he said the blush gene is not a true het marker...
meaning you can have blushed normals that are not het for amelanism....

....BHB sold alot of amels that throw the blushed gene,,my origional male amel was from Brian,I make alot of them here each year....and don't get one extra cent for any of them....
(hets and amels,even "white backs"

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That is great info. I'll keep you posted on how they change. I'm still scratching my head though.
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Mark, I will know if one of mine is or not in about 50 days. This one that looked like this when she hatched…

…….. looked like this five days ago.

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Albey Scholl
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That is remarkable but she still doesn't look normal. She is way too clean. Have you got any pics of the 'Blush Albino' they are supposed hets for?
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The Blush Albino’s change just like the Hets do. It took me three years of breeding to finally produce an Albino (yea I know great luck huh?) and here is a picture of her right after she emerged from the egg.

Here she is as a Sub-Adult.

Here she is as an Adult.

By the way, the main reason I contacted Brian after I hatched out the Axanthic looking ones is because it was my second clutch from the pair, no Albinos and I thought maybe he has sold me Het for Axanthics by mistake.

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Albey Scholl
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..produced in 1999 by a large breeder in Oklahoma City. In this pic, the very first Yellow Blush Albino(double homozygous) is beside a Lav Albino.

The "blush", "false axanthic", "anery" or what ever you would like to call it was proven as a seperate simple recessive in 1999.

When a Yellow Blush Albino(double homozygous) is bred to a normal, all offspring are double het for albino and "blush" aka "false axanthic" aka "anery".

When this "blush" gene pops up you will see it as pictured previously.

If the "blush" gene pops up from an albino to het breeding, those "blush" offspring will be het albino.

If the "blush" offspring pop up from a normal looking het to het breeding then the "blush" are pos het albino and the normals are pos double het "blush" and albino and the albinos are pos het "blush".

With any luck this post will stick around for everyone to read

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Alan Cole

The pieces are starting to come together now. The female that had this clutch and was the mother of the father of this clutch, came from Oklahoma. She is a 2000.
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Any time Mark
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Best regards,
Alan Cole

Thanks again for reminding us about this gene. I think in most breedings now days one parent is albino so they are 100% hets but it's important to know when only possible albino hets that this is a second mutation and not an indication of het albino. I love what it does for the adult albinos and can see why it was selected and has been spread around even if it hasn't really been promoted or sounds like even officially named. A shame really as technically as hard as producing a snow with one of the better known axanthic lines (i.e. a double homozygous 1 in 16 from double het parents).

Agreed Randy!

I think we will see a few ineresting combos in the coming seasons I hope this post stays up for people to read! A few people are working with this gene, and as we keep seeing, they often are confused as to what it is!

If I was in this situation I would be glad if someone shed a little light

hope your season is going well my friend!
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Best regards,
Alan Cole

Here is a pic of a clutch we hatched recently from an albino x het breeding. The top right is a blush and the bottom right is albino blush.

Thanks for your help Randy!

i think you hit the nail on the head! there albey! this certainly is not the first time someone has hatched out albinos and thought they got axanthics somehow! and it appears to be directly related to that blush strain of albinos and yes they do change to normal looking balls after a while! its still nice to be able to identifi youre hets though either way! regards